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Why are people not wearing masks?

778 replies

FergusComeLately · 16/05/2020 17:51

I’m queuing inside my local supermarket, I’ve see one other person wearing a mask.

Does it not make sense to just TRY to protect other people and try and keep infection rates down. Even a scarf wound round your face?!

I think they should be compulsory when you are inside. Is it the PPE shortage which is preventing Boris from making it so?

Talk to me about masks!

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MadCattery · 16/05/2020 22:14

Masks are like hijabs. If you want to wear one, that’s terrific! But no one should be forced to. If you see someone without a mask, maybe take it as a reminder to stay 6’/ 2 m away and go about your own life.

Whataloadofshite · 16/05/2020 22:15

"I don't want to" is NOT a legitimate reason. Shit like this is why we're about to be hit with a massive second wave.

Selfish fucking twats.

highmarkingsnowmobile · 16/05/2020 22:16

It's a totally legitimate reason, hence, why it's a choice.

ragged · 16/05/2020 22:18

Despite limited evidence, they could have a substantial impact on transmission with a relatively small impact on social and economic life

It’s time to encourage people to wear face masks as a precautionary measure on the grounds that we have little to lose and potentially something to gain, say experts in The BMJ today.

gosh that's not very convincing, "it might work" is the logic

Professor Trisha Greenhalgh at the University of Oxford and colleagues say despite limited evidence, masks “could have a substantial impact on transmission with a relatively small impact on social and economic life.”

The question of whether masks will reduce transmission of covid-19 in the general public is contested.

Although clinical trial evidence on the widespread use of facemasks as a protective measure against covid-19 is lacking , at the time of writing increasing numbers of agencies and governments, including the US Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention, are now advocating that the general population wears masks, but others, such as the World Health Organization and Public Health England are not.

Some researchers argue that people are unlikely to wear masks properly or consistently, and may ignore wider infection control measures like handwashing. Others say the public should not wear them since healthcare workers need them more.

But Greenhalgh and colleagues challenge these arguments and suggest that in the context of covid-19, many people could be taught to use masks properly and may well do this consistently without abandoning other important anti-contagion measures.

What’s more, they say if political will is there, mask shortages can be quickly overcome by repurposing manufacturing capacity – something that is already happening informally.

They conclude that it is time to act without waiting for randomised controlled trial evidence .

“Masks are simple, cheap, and potentially effective,” they write. “ We believe that, worn both in the home (particularly by the person showing symptoms)

so after saying there's no evidence but we should wear them anyway, they move onto "we believe" that the masks are especially useful to stop the infected person from passing on the germs, that's still not evidence, it's just more variations on "we believe"

I won't cut and paste the rest, which also wasn't about whether masks only stop a germy person from sharing germs.

I just wanted to know why some people think that masks are more protective if the sick person wears them than if the healthy person wears them. And it comes down to "we believe" evidence. So there is no evidence. Fine. Just say it's like religion to believe that masks are more protective if the sick person wears them.

Jellybean27 · 16/05/2020 22:18

“Masks are like hijabs”

Jesus.

Redolent · 16/05/2020 22:21

@Nisse23

But Denmark locked down early, 11 March. At that point no one has died of the virus. It also has mass testing and tracing (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong).

NoHardSell · 16/05/2020 22:21

Thing is, if a mask I wear protects you, but I think you are a dick (see many posts on here as examples) why exactly do you think I would give a shit if you catch it or not? It's the downside of being a coronavirus warrior. But hey ..you keep wearing one if it makes you feel a hero.

SpringBlossomIsBeautiful · 16/05/2020 22:21

@Whataloadofshite please post your reasons why we are selfish twats

BluePheasant · 16/05/2020 22:24

I hate that masks have become a thing now. It's dangerous.
They create a false sense of security, do very little to protect people in the general public because people do not use them correctly and cause people to forget about the basic social distancing advice. But now the government have told people to get back to work and return to filling their cars up to get out and about more, they have adjusted the stance on masks to appease the public.

I wear a mask during work because I cannot safely distance myself from my patients. I do not wear masks outside of work as I am careful not to go near anyone else other than my own family at home.

Jellybean27 · 16/05/2020 22:25

Thing is, not giving a shit makes you the dick.

But if we play ‘Simon (Boris) says’ you’ll wear one?

Fuck a duck.

MadCattery · 16/05/2020 22:27

What did I say that you find offensive? Hijabs are face coverings worn for sincere beliefs and should always be a choice. Masks are worn for sincere beliefs and are not required, and are a choice. I respect you for whichever choice you make.

mummykauli7 · 16/05/2020 22:29

I tried but I find them really suffocating. I have a condition which can already cause breathlessness, amongst other things and masks really make it worse for me.

HeatherIV · 16/05/2020 22:30

I will never wear one as a matter of principle.

The government can not and should not have a level of power over us that tells us when, why and how we can leave our homes.

If they want to make recommendations then fine - but forcing people - that is far over reaching the power that a government should have in a free country.

Bouledeneige · 16/05/2020 22:30

I wear one and so does my DD when we go to the shops. I bought pretty fabric ones from Etsy online. I don't like wearing one but am getting used to it. If it means I am protecting other shoppers and particularly the staff who are so at risk I will gladly wear one. And I'm grateful to others who want to protect me. I am often there to get things for my 90yr old Dad so would rather I don't bring infection to him on a supermarket shopping bag.

I live in London and I really think everyone is wearing them in the supermarkets I go to. It was pretty bad here so we will do what we can to stop the spread. I'm so glad the frequent sight of ambulances rushing to hospital has tailed off.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 16/05/2020 22:31

Don’t see why I should be forced to wear a mask when vaccinating your child is still optional?! Oh I forgot nothing is as bad as covid- not cancer, not mental health conditions....

tamsintamsout · 16/05/2020 22:34

I can’t cope with having my mouth covered due to a past trauma. My doctor has told me not to wear one because it’s contributing to my severe anxiety right now. I’m worried people will judge and abuse me if I don’t.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 16/05/2020 22:34

No idea what difference it would make if a friend or relative had died of it. Bit late to worry about masks then, isn't it?

Too late for them, but not for you. It's not a nice way to die.

tamsintamsout · 16/05/2020 22:35

Haven’t RTFT as it only took half a page to be called a selfish wanker when I can’t wear one due to my experience of someone trying to kill me.

Just stop judging.

Footywife · 16/05/2020 22:37

@Jellybean27 Oosh! You need more gin?

andweallsingalong · 16/05/2020 22:37

If you’re staying 2m apart, you don’t need a mask. The guidelines say they’re only for situations such as public transport where you can’t do that properly.

Exactly - walking past someone in a supermarket or on the street is not high risk. Standing opposite someone on the tube 1m away for 10 mins is and in that situation I would but I'm never in that situation now.

This!!!

Plus, if I'm going to get it eventually I'd much rather get it with a low viral load from the supermarket where I've socially distanced and cleaned my hands before and after than in far higher risk situations at work.

Also getting pretty pissed off with local mask wearers thinking they're invincible and invading my personal space.

userxx · 16/05/2020 22:37

It's not a nice way to die.

There are very few nice ways to die.

I won't wear a mask as I don't want to.

PastaPins · 16/05/2020 22:38

Because people are unfortunately very selfish and inconsiderate of others.

stopandListen · 16/05/2020 22:38

I don't feel the need to wear one, it's a personal choice and I've made mine, I wouldn't and don't judge those who wear them so please honour the same curtesy.

tamsintamsout · 16/05/2020 22:38

PLEASE stop assuming anyone not in a mask is selfish! Lots of examples on here of why someone might not be able to wear one.

PastaPins · 16/05/2020 22:39

But the majority are selfish and inconsiderate Smile