Anyone feel like, “what was the fucking point?”

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We’ve stuck to guidelines as I’m vulnerable and dh and ds are key workers. Today, on one of our usual walks, groups of people walking abreast down the middle of woodland paths (we pulled off the path), kids running down the path close behind people, joggers taking the middle of the path then coming home across a bridge about 3 metres wide (which has arrows telling you which side to walk on) a couple stood on the wrong side having a good long stare over the water. People were coming over the right side and we were waiting to go over the opposite way. In the end, dh went across the right side and asked them what they were playing at. “Well , you can get by can’t you?” Not very safely. It’s like people think the virus has just vanished because lockdowns been lifted a bit. And walking down the small Main Street home is like hopscotch.Sorry, I’ve tried to be as positive as I can, but this level of dickheadedness just makes me thing the sacrifices we’ve all made will be for naught.

My adult children are night walking, no one’s around much in the evenings.

I’m not vulnerable, but I do stick to rules. But its so frustrating when I see my neighbours having friends around, when we’re just sticking to the rules and finding it really hard being apart from other people. Apart from a handful of people, everyone seems to be breaking the rules sad

It's a lack of leadership. Boris and the government were so half arsed last week about it all. Oh yeah you can drive anywhere now, get back to work, go out and have a street party for VE day. Not surprising nobody gives a shit now and are just doing what they want waiting for Wetherspoons and Mcdonalds etc to open again.

I’m with you, OP. My village is busy today to the extent that DH checked his phone to see if we’d missed a news bulletin that lockdown had been ended. I’m sick of idiots, too, and very sick of the vocal element on here shouting down those who have legitimate concerns and a right to be fucked off that people can’t follow the rules.

I’m going to listen to what actual experts tell me about how this virus spreads and what I should do to avoid it. I find them more reliable than self-important people on Mumsnet who think that because they have spent their furlough time Googling stuff that they are now epidemiologists and we should all listen to them.

It's very, very unlikely to catch the virus from passing someone by. Live and let live. There's no gold stars or medals for being martyrs.

Person goes out to the park and then complains when other people have the same idea.

Don't go for walks where you know other people are going to be if you don't want to encounter anybody else. You sound part of the problem.

It’s not the contributing to the crowds, or being precious, it’s people not showing common sense and being polite.It’s the people who seem to think it’s vanished overnight. Yes, we are all fed up, but just thinking about how your actions impact others could make a difference.

Celan "The real question is: "what was the fucking point of the lockdown at all?" You should prrobably have paid attention when it was explained.

The data is out there, around 80% of the population are still complying with the lockdown measures. That's not only 'a handful of people'

So 20% aren't. Around 13 million people. More than the entire population of some European countries.

I am annoyed with he three abreast across the path people.

Me and DS have been jogging, single file, keeping left and running through all the weeds and grass just to keep away from people. People aimlessly wandering along and not moving does piss me off.

Agree, OP.

I asked myself the same question when looking at all the people in the clearly closed playground adjacent to the field we'd just been walking in an hour ago. Yes, you can avoid them, but that's not the point, is it - it's the impact they're having and the potential contribution to increasing the R rate which is going to delay further any attempts to return to any sort of normality.

Celan "The real question is: "what was the fucking point of the lockdown at all?" You should prrobably have paid attention when it was explained.

Correct. But this government have done everything at exactly the wrong time, meaning we're going to have record numbers of deaths, prolonged virus rampaging through the population - and will have trashed the economy for nothing.

Johnson wasted at least 3 weeks doing nothing. If he'd followed the lead of other nations, we'd have had massively fewer deaths and be lifting lockdown sensible right now.

Don't go for walks where you know other people are going to be if you don't want to encounter anybody else. You sound part of the problem.

It is what it is. Unless you're going out first thing in the morning or at night time then there's going to be people everywhere doing the same thing as you.

I go out because I need the exercise and the fresh air (i'd go stir crazy otherwise and it's unhealthy) but I forget what its like to be able to even walk down my own street without having to maintain a distance from people, which usually involves having to cross the road or walk in the road.

Honestly these threads are so utterly miserable to read. The thinly-veiled hatred of other people daring not to behave in exactly the way you think is correct is why so many people I know find the thing they dread most about going out is being shouted at by some over-anxious random stranger.

The number of local Facebook groups which must be groaning with the desperate posts of curtain twitchers itching to be able to phone the police on a constant basis. No doubt the exact same people who go to the trouble of taking photos of dog crap on pavements and try to get pitchfork-wielding crowds agitated enough to take action.

OP, you're not the only vulnerable person out there. Maybe just maybe try thinking the best of people rather than the worst, and get things into perspective. And for all the people foaming at the mouth ranting on about how it's all back to normal, be bloody honest, it absolutely isn't. For the second time in a week I've driven through my local town (by the sea, destination area for Londoners) and it's deserted. Again. Nothing like a normal Saturday. But that doesn't stop the people curtain twitching, moaning, and desperate to have a rant.

young people are not at risk from covid-19. You can't expect them to behave like they are.

Honestly, you are not going to catch it walking past someone unless they cough in your face

Lockdown was imposed when it looked like London was going to be hit badly. As soon as London was sorted then lockdown was lifted.

We had no cases when lockdown was imposed and could have gone on for another couple of weeks. Now our cases are growing slightly and lockdown has been lifted! Totally the wrong timing for the SW.

I can't I'm in Wales

Are you sure? No one has tested the various devolved assemblies power on this yet.

The chances of catching something by walking past someone in the open air are infinitesimal.
However if you are concerned about that very small risk it would be best to stay inside or go out at less busy times.

Second the recommendation for night walking or early morning walking. I’m not vulnerable (just anti social ) and if you get up and out early morning or late (say 10pm or after) you get plenty room .

Early morning walking is pretty chilled and beautiful too

Sorry wrong thread!

I think some people's paranoia about walking past other people is laughable.

Go out really early or late of you're that worried.

you’re vulnerable = you need to stay in

^ This

I don't think the OP has any issues with others having the same idea. More that when you go out, no one social distances.

I am not vulnerable, but do not want to pick it up and pass it on to someone who is, so we stay indoors.

On the odd occasion we've needed food, no one social distances, not in the store/not walking there. I know the odds of catching it walking past someone must be small, but it must be there or what's the point of the 2 metre rule in the first place?

Yesterday, coming back from our walk, we saw a man about 25 come out if the bakers with a paper bag. He opened it, looked in, took a pie out and sneezed over the pie and into the bag. Handed the bag to his two mates who took out a pie each and they all ate them. Looked like builders.