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How would the bubble work?

66 replies

onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 08:38

Would you have to register details? If so, where and with whom? If not, how could they realistically police it?

Government guidance says they’re considering allowing two households to join. Is there any chance it could be more? Or do you just have to pick your favourite set of parents / grandparents?

Obviously I realise that not everyone has parents (and we have six between us due to DH’s step-parents) but I just think allowing three households would allow for more situations than two.

I expect I’ll get jumped on now but I just don’t get how it’s meant to work.

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Atalune · 12/05/2020 08:42

Where did you read this?

Discobar · 12/05/2020 08:44

It's not until July at the earlist iirc. You can choose 1 other household i'll be choosing our neigjbours who have kids same age. That will save rows over which set of Grandparents to choose.

I think you will register the bubble on the tracing app maybe.

onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 08:45

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

1.5 On what date can I expand my household group?
The government has asked the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) to advise on the concept of “bubbles”, which would mean allowing people to expand their household group to include one other household. For the time being, you cannot visit friends or family, except to spend time outdoors with up to one person from a different household.

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NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 12/05/2020 08:45

Well it's not going to be much use for families engaging with their relatives. It will probably cause more issues than it will cure!

onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 08:46

I don’t think there’s a date at all yet - I just don’t get how it would work.

If you have to register on the app, what about people who don’t have phones?

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onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 08:46

NewModel exactly - talk about a minefield!

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HarrietOh · 12/05/2020 08:52

People will just have to choose one household. It will be difficult for some, but helps prevent the spread. For people who’ve spent months completely alone this is going to be brilliant! Meeting up in a park at a distance with a friend is something, but to be able to sit at home with another human will be amazing.

WearyandBleary · 12/05/2020 08:54

This is a good idea for elderly or people on their own.

I assume that already “split” (divorced) families that are working across two households - or families with key workers - won’t be included. The government should set that expectation accordingly.

Makegoodchoices · 12/05/2020 08:56

The stress of choosing one other family and hoping they’ll also choose you (!)
My son’s best friend’s family is the obvious choice, but we have a third friend who we’re always with - we went on a ski holiday with one lot and a summer holiday with the others. It will be brutal if one of us is missed out Sad

MidsomerMum · 12/05/2020 08:59

I think the best thing is for extended families to discuss it together to come up with a solution that while not ideal might just be the one that makes almost sense. Eg I’m desperate to see my mum and dad who happen to live with my sister and her family but we’ve already discussed within the wider family that the best option is my brother and his family are their bubble (because SILs sister is already keen to be their parents bubble), my aunt and her household are a bubble with my grandparents, and we are a bubble with the in laws because they don’t have anyone else near enough and that seems the kindest and most logical steps - everyone gets to see someone. Almost (but not quite) taking the emotion out of it as it were.

lemonsandlimes123 · 12/05/2020 09:04

makegoodchoices - no disrespect but don't you think that your son's best friends family might be rather more interested in sesing some of their own family ie grandparents than their son's friends parents!

morelikeaclubsandwich · 12/05/2020 09:04

I think the best thing is for extended families to discuss it together to come up with a solution that while not ideal might just be the one that makes almost sense.
Yes great idea in theory but alas many people's families are. It this sensible.
Personally I'm dreading having to choose between my parents and a family with a child for company for my only dc

onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 09:04

People will just have to choose one household.

Already got that, didn’t need it explained!

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onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 09:05

Just questioning whether one is going to be that helpful for people.

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morelikeaclubsandwich · 12/05/2020 09:06

They should just say gather outside in groups of no more than 4 then eg you could have two mothers and a dc each or two couples

BlueBrian · 12/05/2020 09:07

Wouldn't worry about it, it's just Tory BS that won't happen anyway.

Ciwirocks · 12/05/2020 09:10

It will be a nightmare for us, I can see arguments between me and dh over whether we choose his family or mine. Rather just stay as we are than have that nightmare where someone is going to be very hurt and upset. Plus don’t want to get stuck with the in-laws as my only other contact for god knows how long!

NotEverythingIsBlackandWhite · 12/05/2020 09:20

OP, your asking this question is precisely why the Govt just kept re-iterating their rules and not pandering to the public when they were continually asked for details on how and when lockdown would be relaxed.

So, the Govt came out with a rough roadmap, contingent on the R rate not rising above one. The govt have mentioned they are considering allowing two households to meet in a bubble and what happens? You immediately start speculating on how it will work.

Even news sources like TV news and newspapers are full of speculation rather than reporting on the actual news. It isn't helpful and I think it can be irresponsible because there are so many thick people who become confused between speculation and news.

What is the point of you asking how a bubble might work? It doesn't matter what any of us MNers think might happen. It doesn't influence what will happen. There is no prize for correctly guessing what the Govt and scientific advisors decide to implement. Qué Sera, Sera.

CurlyEndive · 12/05/2020 09:21

I don't think it will happen OP. As you say it would be fraught with difficulties!

Ciwirocks · 12/05/2020 09:22

Oh for goodness sake people are allowed to have a conversation!

onemorepringle · 12/05/2020 09:23

OP, your asking this question is precisely why the Govt just kept re-iterating their rules and not pandering to the public when they were continually asked for details on how and when lockdown would be relaxed.

This question is about something directly in the government guidance.

God forbid anyone might want to discuss anything that hasn’t been completely announced - it’s not like this is a discussion forum or anything?

What is the point of you asking how a bubble might work

Well gee, there’s this crazy thing called conversation.

I guess I thought someone might have some insight based on how it’s been applied in NZ. Or just want to chat. Silly me, I’ll go back in my box.

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Atalune · 12/05/2020 10:19

I can’t the bubble working.

I don’t know why you are being given such a hard time on this thread!

TeaAndBiscuits666 · 12/05/2020 10:59

I hope that if bubbles are introduced there is some sort of time frame to them; e.g. you can mix with one other household for a time, then if you isolate for a fortnight, you could change to a different household.

I'm due a baby at the end of next month and it seems rather cruel to just choose one set of grandparents that can see baby. I'd be much happier if I could have a visit from my parents, then no one for a fortnight, then my in-laws, then no one for a fortnight and then back to my parents, and so on.

Not sure if this even makes sense to anyone else or if my hormones are just clutching at straws.

Purplequalitystreet · 12/05/2020 11:04

No one will do it properly. I know a lot of people who have already said they will just see both sets of grandparents, or see one inside and see the others outside. These people have followed the rules so far

whatnametopick · 12/05/2020 11:59

The 50 page gov document actually has a link to the NZ gov page on how it could work. I can see it causing problems within families of who to choose and parents who share custody are considered to already have their bubble.

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