People cured - wtf

[letitgolego]

Why are we the only fucking country that isn't reporting on how many people are cured of coronavirus? Surely this would help moral and provide a better picture of the mortality of this disease rather than reporting on just death number? Why are we the only country incapable of this?


www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

This information is taken from the website above which I believe to be very credible if any MNetter wants to have a look

[AvalancheKit]

@Topseyt

Would just like to point out nobody should criticise any government for not being able to “organise a piss up in a brewery”.

It has been pretty clear for some time that pubs, bars and restaurants have been closed and social gatherings are banned. It is also clear, under any loose definition, that a brewery would be classed as ‘a similar establishment’. As neither Priti Patel nor Jacob Rees-Mogg have been seen or heard much over these last few weeks, I think it is worth congratulating them on not attempting to organise something that they cannot actually achieve.

[Sgtmajormummy]

I’m not a professional statistician, but those Recovered figures tell me that the U.K. is testing only the sick and that they are still in the full pandemic, since death figure are far higher than recovered ones.
So yes, they do matter.

[rwalker]

No point the British public are only interested in bad news and shortcomings .So they can clearly point out with hind site where it went wrong and what we should of done.

[Sircat]

If it’s been at least 10 days since you first had symptoms, and you’ve been symptom-free for 48 hours, the Ministry of Health considers you have recovered from Covid-19 here in NZ. No testing after recovery interestingly enough.

[nannybeach]

Doesnt say cured it says recovered, stat are meaningless really, how many people had it and remained asymptomatic or so mildly they didnt realise. Our death tol relates to care homses, and hospitals, the rest of the world only give hospital deaths. I am certainly not "just" interested in deaths, I watch or read with joy, anyone who comes out alive from ITU,)especially knowing 2 people in there, ventilation over a month

[Humphriescushion]

I have been tracking France and wanted these no.s, well i wanted to know how many have been discharged after being admitted to hosptial. I saw that the no.s in hospital went down by about 2000 in a week and i also saw the no.s who died in hosital was about the same. Obviously some went into hospital and some went home but i have no idea. In france i can track all this and it gives a good picture of what is happening with the virus.

[Bluntness100]

Op, they need to be tested three times to be sure it’s negative, the focus is on dealing with active new cases, that’s all. Not calling people back to retest them.

[Humphriescushion]

The figure of 56,000 on worldometers for France is those who been discharged from hospital, surely this number is easy to give?

[lyralalala]

They won't know. My BIL hasn't spoken to a single person involved in his care since he left hospital. He left with a hacking cough and was told he'd be given a call with his second test result (he had one positive test, then one negative test 6 days later. He was tested 7 days after that) and to advise him if he needed to quarantine any longer.

That was early April and he's never heard from anyone. No idea what his test result was as he can't get through to the number he was given. His GP told him that he should just isolate for 14 days after leaving the hospital and as long as his only remaining symptom was his cough he could mix with his household again.

So nobody tracking things has any idea if he's better, if he's still unwell or what's going on with him. They don't even know that he followed the instructions and quarantined. When I had swine flu I had daily calls at random times to make sure I was where I was meant to be, they even came to the door with the police when I missed a call once.

[CrowdedHouseinQuarantine]

We dont have the testing capacity, we have just sent tests to US currently due to some blip
the NHS is underfunded, including the labs

[TheMotherofAllDilemmas]

The low level of testing allow the government to pretend there are not so many people infected/dying but prevents them to say who has recovered. I guess they will rather not report recoveries that scare votes away with the truth.

[Collaborate]

We've had 334 recovered. Look at all the other figures. Total cases, less total deaths, less active cases gives you a figure for total recovered.

I acknowledge that 334 isn't many. But it works for all the other countries (only tested Spain and Italy so far, but they tally).

[CrowdedHouseinQuarantine]

OP why dont you send in the question for today's briefing?

[CrowdedHouseinQuarantine]

I imagine recovered is pretty meaningless unless we know you can't get it twice

[Needmoresleep]

Lyra, KCL is tracking symptoms

covid.joinzoe.com/

DD has not been particularly ill but has had four sets of distinct temperature spikes, chills and fatigue, every two weeks starting the weekend of the Cheltenham races. She has logged her symptoms daily and the latest episode triggered their algorithm, and she as sent a home test kit.

The results will be interesting. If she is still infectious that is quite worrying. Though perhaps infectious and infected are different.

[JacobReesMogadishu]

I agree I don’t think this country has the capacity or organisation to test recovered people. So they can’t be officially classified as though their symptoms may have resolved nobody knows if they still have the virus.

Interestingly in China they have people still testing positive some weeks after symptoms have resolved. No idea if they’re still infectious or not.

[zen1]

It’s weird. I have been looking at Worldometers very day since they published that coronovirus table, and there was a period of three or four days when we did publish ‘recovered’ figures, before the status was changed to N/A. Prior to that, it was just left blank.

[lyralalala]

Needmore

I believe he’s doing that tracking, but I think that’s recent. It’s crazy no-one at least made sure he was staying away from people whilst still potentially contagious. Especially when he was confirmed having it

[homeschoolmyarse]

Simply because we have no structure for comprehensive testing

[daisychain01]

Interestingly in China they have people still testing positive some weeks after symptoms have resolved. No idea if they’re still infectious or not

I think we've all experienced the post-'flu lethargy and general feeling of malaise weeks after the actual 'flu symptoms have gone away. I distinctly remember the only time I caught 'flu, I felt rough for 6 weeks and only regained my normal body weight after 2 months. So it stands to reason the virus doesn't completely disappear from the cells just because the worst effects have been fought off.

This is one nasty 🦠 that's why we're being asked to stay at home if we have the chance to do so. Hopefully it will give people the message that rushing out of the starting blocks the minute the Government starts to relax some of the lockdown guidance is not the best idea, albeit tempting. I personally don't have any faith in the stats, but it's understandable we won't get a truly accurate picture, just an indicative snapshot of trends over a long time.

[mortforya]

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Who the fuck?
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Off you fuck
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[Mnthrowaway20202]

@CloudsCoveredTheSky My sister is a covid ward nurse who developed symptoms, her management/HR gave her that information as justification of the refusal to test her.

[Inkpaperstars]

Could it be partly that they think they can extrapolate wider infection levels from the death rate, but the recovered rate doesn't reveal as much as they have no idea how many have recovered in the community? Also no way of confirming recovered status on a wide scale. Problem is they also don't have an entirely accurate take on deaths from covid.