Frustration with people and their views over lockdown

[Flossie44]

Is it ok to be so soooo fed up with people moaning about lockdown and how they can’t go on holiday, or go to the pub etc etc??!! Literally gonna loose my rag over it soon!!

Feel so sad that those people can’t look at the bigger picture. People have died. Families have been left, unable to attend funerals or able to unite in grief. People are alone to stay safe.

It seems, and I know I’m generalising here so don’t shoot me, but it seems the ones that predominantly moan, are those that are fit and well. Not those that are having to endure the loneliness of shielding.

We are shielding for my daughter, aged 11. It means her elder sister can’t go back to school when they open. It means her elder brother is isolating at uni, alone, in order to keep his sister safe. It means my husband is working from home, which isn’t easy. It means our nurses can’t come to our home and help with my daughters care. So I’m dealing with that myself. We are relying on volunteers to help us get prescriptions etc. I feel inadequate that I can’t go and do this myself.
And all this hasn’t got an end date, or an exit plan.

We can’t moan..we are doing this to stay safe. But boy oh boy, do I want to cry that it’s like this. It highlights that dd is ill.

So why do these healthy people who can still go and do their own shopping eyes get out, moan!!

Nope, I’m one of the lockdown moaners and hate how all non-Covid related problems are being minimised at the moment. Child with a degenerative illness not getting the treatment they need because of lockdown? In agony with a dental abscess because your dentist is closed? Child isolated at home suffering from severe mental health issues? 82 and desperately lonely because you’ve seen not a soul for two months? SUCK IT UP; PEOPLE ARE DYING, YOU NEED TO BE MORE RESILIENT!

Our children are cooped up at home, deprived of crucial social contact and missing out on an education. We’re at risk of raising a fearful generation of kids with stunted social and emotional skills. Not to mention the massive economic fallout from this, which my DD’s generation are going to be paying for for the rest of their lives. Lockdown was meant to be a temporary, last resort reaction to the virus, not a whole new way of life - but some people seem so wedded to it they don’t want us to come out the other side.

@mrsnettle well said, we all feel we are doing the right thing now and a large survey of people say they would rather this continued but when life is bleak due to recession etc people won’t be interested in those who died when their lives are unbearable due to homelessness and poverty

Sorry OP but I completely disagree - the economic impact is far too great to keep the country locked down much longer. The vast majority of those who get the virus will be mildly affected or asymptomatic and we simply cannot keep the country at a standstill much longer. Those who need greater protection need to keep safe and continue to shield but there is no reason not to get the rest of society up and running with greater support in place for those who need it. I can’t understand how people aren’t terrified of the long term implications of the economic stall and the resulting depression which to me is far more terrifying than the virus. The whole country will be moaning when there is a massive recession and likely long term hardship for millions.

@bellabelles yes but there is so much tunnel vision over this

People want it to continue because they are sat on their arses on 80% pay. They are having a elongated holiday aging and having BBQs in the back garden. They are the masses screaming for it to continue.

My opinion is furlough was too generous, they should have just had the UC amount and housing benefit to cover mortgages and rent.

Meanwhile others are drowning WFH and balancing children either as a couple or lone like me. Watching our children's education suffer, watching the economy fall to tatters, realising the tax and cost implication of this elongated lockdown.

But it's ok, because the furloughed masses sucking in billions want it to continue....🙄

The sad fact is we are so on the beginning this exploding into something massive. If we get it wrong this week or next week then this time next month our hospitals.will be over run and death rate dwarfing the hideous 30000 already dead from this awful disease. The 2nd wave is coming no mattwr what we do and there is still a chance it will be similar this one but get it wrong and it will be so much worse.
What then? Do we start over all over again? Another 8 week lock down?? That would be the absolute end for Alot of people but if we fuck up now How will we ever reduce it again?

Maybe just a bit more patience and people actually doing what's asked instead of patting themselves in the back every time they justify or find a loophole to manipulate a situation to their personal advantage, might make the difference.

I dont think there is anyone wnjoyingblife. Most of us are struggling in some way.

@Flossie44 Aww, thank you! Thinking of you and your daughter too

Why do so many people think it's lockdown that's causing economic problems? Consider the alternative - the virus rips through the population and at least 60% of the workforce gets it. 20,000 people of working age die - if they all earned the average wage, that's £600 million of taxable income gone per year (not per lifetime). Those with surviving dependent families are then more likely to require state hand-outs. Then consider the sick leave - millions of people off sick at once, and you only have to look at the lungs thread to see it's not uncommon for people with "mild" (not hospitalised) cases to be floored by this for weeks. Moving onto the fact that experts believe there will be long term health impacts for those severely affected - consider the costs associated with that in large numbers. All these things have massive economic impact. There's no getting away from it. It's not "lives vs the economy" - the economy is in trouble either way.

My final thought is to re-iterate @Nb89's point - if we all rush "back to normal" then we may as well have not locked down in the first place and everything we've already sacrificed will be in vain.

Just because you're shit is worse than my shit doesn't mean it's not shit for me too and I can't complain about it. People in less developed countries have to shield who families in 1 or 2 bed flats Atleast you have a whole house and garden so therefore by your logic you shouldn't complain because you have it so much better.

I am 21 years old, because of corona virus I was brought back from my year abroad early, a year abroad which is a compulsory part of my degree and there's still no plans as to how this will be recitified. My university is shut so all my learning is online which is absolutely shit and not nearly of the same quality I would receive with in person teaching yet I am still having to pay the same tuition fees. I've had to come back home to live with my parents who I love but god living with them 24/7 for a prolonged period of time after being independent and living alone for so long, only coming back in holidays, is draining. There's no guarantee as to what will happen with university in September, yet I will still have to pay full fees again, not to mention I already have a house share sorted for next year which I will have to pay for no matter what. I can't get a job right now, I've applied for so many but the initial panic buying has waned and supermarkets are actually giving our less shifts and no other jobs want to train someone from scratch so I have no way to make money or any excuse to get out of the house. I had a casual job in a restaurant but because it was 0 hours I am not applicable for any kind of furlough. I am 21, these should be the best years of my life, yet I can't see my friends, my boyfriend, go out, socialise, continue my sports training or do anything that actually gives me a life as opposed to just living. On top of all this I will be graduating into the biggest recession since the Great Depression and that is already on top of ridiculous house prices/rent and every generation above us calling us lazy and entitled youth.

You know what my life is shut right now, and looks like it will be for the next few years because of all this. Whoop de doo I can go to the super market and a lone run but guess what, this does not in any way make up for what I am missing out on!

am not selfish and I will not break lockdown and put others at risk (because let's face it, I'm young and athletic so at low risk myself)

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I will not go out and put the vulnerable at risk despite not being vulnerable myself but I will damn we'll complain about it all. Because it is crap, and I deserve recognition for putting up with all this crap at literally no benefit to myself. You shielding might also be crap for you but Atleast it benefits your family. So you can complain and I can complain, but do not tell me my complaints are invalid because you think you have it worse.

I’m fed up with the people who are treating this like a contest and only they are allowed to be frustrated and upset.

It’s definitely affecting everyone differently but I am sick to the back teeth of perfectly healthy people cowering at home saying they won’t leave the house until a vaccine has arrived or send their kids to school. Absolutely their choice but the majority of us do not have that luxury. People need to gain some perspective

Do people think they can just wait at home for a vaccine then? Good luck with that.

People need to gain some perspective

So do people on the other side though. There are plenty of people who think this is all an over reaction and that healthy people are safe, when in fact 5% of the deaths have been young, healthy people, we have the highest weekly death toll since records began in this country, etc.

The people I feel most sorry for are those in their late teens and early 20s. They are missing their education, coming of age experiences and their prospects are permanently lowered by this lockdown. And they are at zero personal risk but are asked to do this to keep the over 65s alive. It is madness and they have every right to complain.
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Mini don't think at all we should wait for a vaccine but our loft of lockdown needs to be VERY controlled so slow and to certain degree limit the next wave.
Every time a person decides that actually it's ok for them to bend the rules to suit their needs they are potentially tKingba risk and by doing so increasing the risk for everyone. Old people, vulnerable groups included.

There is so little room for error. This disease has such a long incubation period and last for weeks, so.if we fuck up and get a catastrophic peak, we are looking at another 8 weeks in lockdown. Surely no one wants that. So I just don't get why people cannot just get on board to.do this slowly and sensibly to avoid that happenning again.

@letitgolego I have three children the youngest is 19 and is in similar position back from uni (was in first year) ... it's heartbreaking I hear everything you say.

As a mum to 4 young adults aged 18 to 22. Some back home from uni. I get it's shit. But it's not about protecting the over 65s. It's about protecting our NHS, and vulnerable people. Millions if those vulnerable people are under 65. The OP of this thread has an 11yo daughter. So what?? Because it's a minority or you don't have significant loved ones that are vulnerable that makes it ok then??

It's like the horror of starving children in Africa need reports. People see it. Agree it's awful but then go to Dominoes. It's fine unless it actually impacts you.

@seperatedSwans
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Good for you if you can wfh. Not everyone can. Not everyone is getting paid. Not everyone has a job to go back to. Furlough is ending soon, if you're lucky enough to be on it, and what then? Not everyone has the luxury of sitting at home tapping away angrily at their computers about how everyone needs to continue lockdown - bills are going unpaid, businesses have failed, people who can't wfh or be furloughed are either burning through savings or having to apply.for UC. It's frightening. Stay home if you can afford but not everyone can and the prospect of losing our homes and jobs is more frightening right now than the risk of catching an illness that makes a tiny percentage of the population sick enough they die. You are lucky you are getting enough money that you can sit safely at home and moan about people moaning. Good for you.

I lost my job 11th March. So money is also a worry. For alot of people it not one or the other. Done have a double whammy of vulnerable loved ones AND financial worries.

Which us why I'm so pissed off people are just doing pretty much as they please or have such a shit attitude to the guidelines. I want some normality as much as the next person but for every person pulling away from the team effort the further away that becomes.

@PowerslidePanda I am somewhere in the middle I am happy to admit that. Yes younger people are dying but it is still a tiny amount compared to the older people this mostly affects, as is the same with many pandemics there will be younger people also affected but not to the point that I am going to live my life in fear

As with any illnesses I should have worded that instead of pandemics

@YouJustDoYou don’t say that! I got slaughtered for saying I was more concerned about keeping a roof over our heads and food on the table than the virus