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For those who want schools to go back..

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pfrench · 07/05/2020 12:08

.. tell us how you think it should work. Primary or secondary.

In your ideal world.

How would social distancing be adhered to?
How about drop off and pick up?
How would classrooms operate?
How about lunchtimes and breaktimes?
What about after school childcare provision?
What about staff who are sheidling?
What about children who are sheilding?
What about staff who have family members who are sheilding?
Should only some children go back? Who should they be and why?

So many education and school experts on here, it will be interesting to read your safe solutions.

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WhyNotMe40 · 08/05/2020 17:28

I'll have a Google for that place later, thanks

bluefoxmug · 08/05/2020 17:29

when my dc go back to school next week there will be no shared equipment.
children have to bring their own pen and paper (they do anyway here) and that we parents have to remind dc of the (new) school rules.

WhyNotMe40 · 08/05/2020 17:30

And yeah, definite uptick in socialising aroy me this week as well

Daffodil101 · 08/05/2020 17:32

So bloody irritating. I don’t want to listen to their shit choice of music either

EducatingArti · 08/05/2020 17:35

When schools had hand sanitiser just before lockdown I heard of one school where parents stole the bottles in reception and another where they had to stop using it because some of the kids were eating it (because of alcohol content?)

EducatingArti · 08/05/2020 17:38

I heard in one school they had to stop using hand sanitiser because some of the kids were eating it!

EachDubh · 08/05/2020 17:42

We aren't allowed alcohol based hand sanitiser, the other stuff is just sticky rubbish and no use. Also not allowed any bleach based cleaning agents so the school cleaning is done with a cleaner that says on the label it kiss some bacteria but not viruses 😂😂

EachDubh · 08/05/2020 17:42

Kills not kiss 🤔

EducatingArti · 08/05/2020 17:44

Sorry for double post. Thought first one had got lost

Daffodil101 · 08/05/2020 17:46

There are lots of things we weren’t allowed to have or do in the NHS. But suddenly we are allowed. Hand sanitiser was ripped from the wall by visitors in my hospital.

rc22 · 08/05/2020 17:48

-Social distancing could only be achieved by reducing class sizes - this could only be achieved by kids coming in on a rota basis ( this the only way I can see it working in my school - oversubscribed, small building, in normal times packed to the rafters with kids and staff!!)
-Staggered drop off and pick up - older kids (year 5 and 6) encouraged to walk to school independently if at all possible?
-discipline would need to be strict. Stay in your seat and don't move without explicit permission from grown ups. Teachers very much teaching from the front and unable to give kids the valuable one to one support and feedback that pushes learning on
-children with named up stationery and equipment - strictly no sharing
-children eat lunches in their socially distanced class room places - rota system drawn up for some socially distanced outdoor play

  • after school care provision may not be feasible initially
  • staff who are shielding won't be able to return to work until medically advised to do so - schools will have to decide how to work round this by deciding how many children they can have in or using supply staff to cover
  • shielding kids will have to remain at home and continue some form of online work
-staff with shielding family members covered by supply staff or asked to consider moving out of family home to be able to return to work(tough ask but some may consider this as NHS staff have)

Sadly no easy solutions and no quick ways of returning to full childcare service as normal for working parents. As a teacher, I will happily return when the scientists say it is safe to do so but will not return before then for the sake of the economy. I understand the situation parents are in but I am a graduate trained to provide education not childcare.

EachDubh · 08/05/2020 17:49

We are not allowed, even now in the hubs. No change, partly financial, there is no money being made available but it is a disciplinary to have it and use it in school. There needs to be a fair bit done by governments, not each individual local authority before we open. They may even have to, shock horror, put money in. Our school budget had no money for cover this year or equipment or educational ICT. Not a penny!

Fedup21 · 08/05/2020 17:50

There are lots of things we weren’t allowed to have or do in the NHS. But suddenly we are allowed

I suspect that doing contraband things behind closed doors in a hospital when only NHS staff or the patients whose lives are being saved are there to see, will be different to doing things that were previously not allowed in a school. With 30 witnesses and parents who are extremely anxious, I would expect complaints about ‘safeguarding’ to be off the scale.

Fedup21 · 08/05/2020 17:52

discipline would need to be strict. Stay in your seat and don't move without explicit permission from grown ups

I wonder what impact this will have on fixed term exclusions for children that aren’t willing to comply?!

Daffodil101 · 08/05/2020 17:54

It’s not doing little things behind closed doors. Have you seen the emergency changes to the mental health act?

bossyrossy · 08/05/2020 17:57

What about nursery schools where staff have to have physical contact with children, changing nappies, wiping noses, picking them up when they fall over? How do you stop children sharing toys? The children are too young to understand social distancing. The issues are endless.

Loverofoldfilms · 08/05/2020 17:57

Until the UK doesn't sort out its horrific daily death toll it would just be madness to reopen schools. Thanks to the government. The NHS won't be able to cope with a second wave in the winter months. We are not Germany.

WutheringTights · 08/05/2020 18:00

Not a teacher, but working on the assumption that my kids will be in school for two days a week for the foreseeable. Just hope they're in on the same two days each week. I'll get two full days work done and the have to cobble things together at home for the other three days, much as now. I'm office based and can't see them opening our office much before Christmas, as my job is entirely doable from home.

starlight13 · 08/05/2020 18:01

Only key years such as year 6 would go back initially. All your other points are not that difficult to adhere to. Schools will have a couple of weeks to prepare. It will start soon, my husband is a secondary head and has been told to prepare for beg June.

Daffodil101 · 08/05/2020 18:05

My daughter goes to a school with split sites. Y11 have left. Y10 have the whole campus

nellodee · 08/05/2020 18:13

@starlight13 Told by who?

Imdabest1 · 08/05/2020 18:24

So i work in a special school where pupils don’t understand social distancing and have profound learning and physical disabilities. I would like to know how staff are supposed to social distance themselves and pupils social distance from staff?

cherish123 · 08/05/2020 18:28

I am a teacher and, while I would love to go back before the summer, I cannot see it happening. I think each school will have to plan their own return differently, following LEA guidelines. Each school is different so will have different issues. I think the main issues are social distancing, touching surfaces, hand washing effectively when at bathroom, sharing resources, helping children, touching faces (own and others) and behaviour.

Imdabest1 · 08/05/2020 18:30

@cherish123 i totally understand pupils in my setting are unable to cover there own mouths when coughing sneezing and when we are not given ppe how are we suppose to care for our pupils

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