The majority of people seem genuinely terrified

[thewheelsonthebus23]

I keep reading threads on Facebook and elsewhere, I will also include my own mother in this. There are so many people genuinely petrified of life returning to normal right now.
I can’t get my head around this. Yes, it poses a threat to some, but the survival rate is incredibly high for most of the population. It seems a lot of people think lockdown will eradicate it completely and it also seems that they believe if they get it, they’ll almost certainly die. I know that’s what my mum thinks. She’s adamant if she gets it, she’ll end up on a ventilator.
Someone posted about sending their child back to school and said something along the lines of: “I’d rather pay the fine, than pay for her funeral”.
Has the media been really irresponsible here? I feel the mass media has a lot to answer for.

FACT - Spain is seeing a second surge of cases - this is not because they have lifted restrictions, they reported the second surge only a couple of days after they eased the lockdown.

FACT - Britain has the highest death rate in Europe - yes but not per 100k of the population. Per 100k of the population we are currently at number 4. Source: www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/

You need to look past the sensational headlines.

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Sensational headlines?
Do you not think over 32,000 deaths is bad?
We're 'only' number four in terms of death rate per 100k population... That's not bad enough?
You don't think it's bad our doctors and nurses and other HCP are dying?
You don't think it's terrible the affect this pandemic is having on the BAME community?

What's happening is no sensationalist headline. Unfortunately. It's far worse.

Of course it's terrible. I never said it wasn't. I think we should stick to real facts, not scaremongering.

The trouble is Covid isn't the only thing that can kill you. I am obeying the lockdown, in favour of lockdown continuing for another 3 weeks but at the same time if covid is here to stay until we hopefully get a vaccine we have to find a way to live with it. I am encouraged that numbers are for the most part going in the right direction, if you think just under a month ago we had 980 hospital deaths and today they they were just over 330, I know there are deaths in care homes but I don't have those figures to hand so just looking at hospital deaths. If they keep going down then by 1st June we could be seeing hospital deaths of between 100 and 200 and hopefully by then they would have more of a grip on the situations in care homes.

My dad needs an urgent operation on his eye to save his sight, and if untreated could kill him but his pre op was supposed to be this month, they have said August at the earliest and maybe not then as quite rightly they will see the patient's worse than him first. One of my friends has just been treated for a very rare form of breast cancer and all her follow up appointments have been cancelled, although hopefully now NHS is opening up a bit more she will hopefully be seen as a priority.

I would struggle to accept lockdown as it is until September, my dad has more chance of going blind or becoming severely ill if his eye isn't treated than he does of dying of covid. For all those people worried about their elderly relatives catching and dying of covid there are those of us with friends and relatives whose lifesaving treatment has been put on hold with potentially fatal consequences because of the lockdown.

I honestly don't know what the answer is, but there needs to be a balance between covid and other health considerations.

For myself, I am concerned about covid and about the impact it has on our lives, I am concerned about someone I care about dying, but I am not terrified, especially not for myself or my immediate family, and I am pretty sure I have already had it. It wasn't much fun but I am ok now.

I don't know what the middle ground is but I think there has to be one somewhere as we can't realistically stay in lockdown forever or until a vaccine or treatment is found. I think the most we could manage was another month before the consequences of all the other diseases and conditions that have not been treated start to build up.

If a vaccine is found and approved by the NHS I will happily have it and I have no problems downloading the contract tracing app when it become available.

I think a lot of people are terrified, but that’s because they are terrified of death!! I have always said and thought there are only two certainties in life death and tax’s.

I have always not worried about death as I have always thought when It’s your time to go it’s your time to go. There have been a few times in my life when I could have past over but I didn’t and I just knew it was not my time to go.

So I’m not sitting worrying about getting the virus, when I get it then hopefully I will get through it if I don’t then it was my time.

But worrying about it won’t change the out come.

Risk perception has gone out of the window and out of all proportion. For all species, mortality of all causes is 100%. It's just a question of timing. Newsflash: we're not going to get out of here alive.

I don't know anybody who is remotely "terrified".

Maybe I need to get out more.

I haven't caught up with the whole thread so perhaps I've missed something. Who's been scaremongering?

Yes we have to stick to the facts. Which are that there's a very infectious deadly disease out there. We're in a global pandemic.

Many people have died, others are ill for weeks.

And it's disproportionately killing doctors, nurses, other HCP - and the BAME community.

Nana agree. Worrying about it won't help. Taking preventative measures will.

When it's time to go. Yes. But these deaths are affecting people who aren't ready to go. Including parents of young children. There are also less unpleasant ways of going.

ToffeeYoghurt

You are totally correct Take all the preventative measures you can, but unfortunately people die of all sorts of terrible things at a early age all of the time. We all know people who we say have gone to soon from things like cancer, heart attacks, road deaths, or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

That why I have always tried to live for the here and now because we really don’t know what Tomorrow will bring.

I also really believe that most people will get the virus at some time over the next 18months until they find a vaccine that works. So I have decided to hope for the best and just deal with what comes to me and all the people I love and care for.

Because like most things in life this is out of my hands, all I can really do is keep washing them!! 🤝

I have been less terrified recently but yesterday the window cleaner knocked on our door and stepped back, so went to put money on the ground so he could then tskexwhen I had gone in, instead he stepped and took from my hand and said thank you, he didnt touch my handas I was only holding the edge of the note , left straight away and I went in and washed my hands but I have been awake all night worrying. I have been following guidelines so well and now feel really anxious that I have messed up and put myself at risk as well as my husband. Have gone from feeling a lot better to totally anxious so not sure how I will feel.once itvisctime to ho out and about.

Apologies, once it is time to go out and about. Lack of sleep and no glasses.

Of course people are terrified, we've been told to stay in our homes and it's all doom and gloom on the news. As restrictions ease, the tone and messaging from the government and media will change - people will start to head outdoors, back to shops, back to work where plausible and slowly start to carry on with life albeit while wearing a mask. I don't get why everyone thinks they have to get it at some point though. The whole point of this lockdown is to get that R number as low as possible and reduce transmission. The lower that is the least likely you are of getting it.

Why are the newspapers saying lockdown will end on Monday?

@gfplux Becuase they are owned and funded by billionnaires for whom there is a personal financial interest in people going back to work asap and restarting the economy.

@Keynote1 awe, don't worry, the odds of you catching it that way are extremely unlikely. Kudos for the good hand hygiene!

Its a real nightmare! Not downgrading all the deaths but realistically 99% of the population will not die of the Covid virus. People should be using their energy to force the government to fund our NHS appropriately and give a living wage to the staff. if I m going to complain its about something that can help us all out of this mess

I feel personally that If the government didn’t put out how serious this is then people wouldn’t bother listening to self isolation rules in the start when they advised people to stay at home everyone was out travelling in large groups still out drinking and partying and the death toll was escalating rapidly
if strict rules are not put into place not everyone would listen (some people still not), educating people on covid 19 will scare some people, others not so much, it’s a personal thing if you know people who are sick and that have passed away or vulnerable then you may feel more worried about the lockdown being lifted then someone who has carried on as normal and not had any issues,
social media exaggerates everything so if your worried I suggest coming off it for a while as it is overwhelming and contains so much fake news.

Everyone should follow good hygiene routines anyway as standard but remember there are a lot more people that survive then that don’t my grandfather passed away, and I found out I was pregnant 3 days before lockdown and have not seen one family member or friend since,
I’d like lockdown to be loosened however not completely lifted I want to see my mum and my sisters but I will still keep my distance from them even sitting in a garden with them would be nice, I want my partner to be able to share our first child’s next scan as he couldn’t for my first one and this was hard for me
However I don’t want to have someone breathing down my neck when I’m out, so having some common curtesy for others wouldn’t go a miss and continuing high hygiene standards and social distancing whenever possible still, I think my fear lies in the lack of respect SOME people have when they are out (this is not everyone may I point out before I get slated)
I know I will be extra carful around others in public I hope for the same back, I do completely understand why people are scared the fear of loosing a loved one is horrendous but take precaution when around others if we do this then it will help,
We can’t let fear control us or we won’t be living anyway.

That’s interesting because I live in the south of Spain and no news has been reported regarding a second wave. Our death toll has remained pretty stable over the last 2 weeks near enough. There may be more cases reported however as more testing is being carried out on front line staff and the wider public. The last report from our hospitals here in the south was that they discharged the last remaining ITU patient last week. That means our ITU’s are currently empty of Covid patients.

When I say education on CV I mean true education not the public’s opinions, not the fake News or memes

Keynote1

Think about it the window cleaner has been washing windows all day!! his hand are most likely very clean , so unless he coughed on you!! You will be fine.
And you also washed your hands straight away. Which is still the best wash to kill the virus.
So please stop worrying.

I truly think we all need to find some perspective and balance in all this.

I have had cancer 3 times now, my immune system is well and truly screwed, otherwise I'm relatively fit. But I am also my terminally ill Mums primary carer, and my husband and son have been at work the whole time.

Yes it is scary, but we have to adjust. Be cautious, respect the virus and the threat it brings. Wash properly and frequently, change clothes and wear a face mask or covering if appropriate.

We're all getting through this in our own way, we need to support and understand each others needs and just be kind.

Keynote one this is my point about others some are more cautious then others you clearly are respecting others at this time and taking precaution but remember after handling money we should wash hands where possible anyway so it’s normal hygiene standards once we get slightly back to normality our anxiety’s and fears will reduce x

I completely agree with you we do adjust and I think your a strong person x