The majority of people seem genuinely terrified

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I keep reading threads on Facebook and elsewhere, I will also include my own mother in this. There are so many people genuinely petrified of life returning to normal right now.
I can’t get my head around this. Yes, it poses a threat to some, but the survival rate is incredibly high for most of the population. It seems a lot of people think lockdown will eradicate it completely and it also seems that they believe if they get it, they’ll almost certainly die. I know that’s what my mum thinks. She’s adamant if she gets it, she’ll end up on a ventilator.
Someone posted about sending their child back to school and said something along the lines of: “I’d rather pay the fine, than pay for her funeral”.
Has the media been really irresponsible here? I feel the mass media has a lot to answer for.

The Government are responsible. Night after night a relentless press conference from Downing Street discussing DEATH and showing they are helpless and incompetent.

No wonder many of us are frightened,

If so, what a dreadful waste of money.

What has the experience been on the Isle of Wight?

I've 7 close relatives, ranging in age from 4yrs-90yrs who would be extremely unlikely to survive the virus due to a range of serious conditions. That's without even looking at friends and the possible impact on them. My life would change immeasurably if I lost any of these relatives and only one of them , as this seems to be a bug bear for most people,would classify as obese because she's had years of regular steroid treatment.
The op, while I disagree with her views, is probably displaying important survivor instincts.

Here you go @Hearhoovesthinkzebras
This is from the article I posted on page 13.

Now that doesn’t mean that the elderly / vulnerable “don’t matter”. Of course they do. But it helps everyone in society if those who are young, fit and healthy can go out and work to pay taxes, which go towards fund the nhs, as long as social distancing is possible. The furlough scheme is costing billions a day. Lots of people are claiming benefits that weren’t before. Public services staff still need paying.

I'm only scared of getting COVID as I have a prolapse and severe coughing won't be good. I have made huge progress with PT and I really do t want to be setback by this!

Can I ask what it is you think you know?

Why you think it's ok to sacrifice what you consider to be the few for the many?

How would you feel if your mum did die?

You only say these things because it hasn't touched you personally so you think it never will.

Ask to volunteer at your local hospital, take a good look and then come back and discuss it.

Luckily the lockdown isn’t going to be extended or lifted based on how mums on MN feel about their own personal risk. Thank god.

I didn't cough much at all, if that helps. I had an appalling time with pneumonia about 8 years ago. This was really really really really nothing in comparison. It took ages to get my pelvic floor back in shape after that. Anecdote, but hopefully a positive story for you catsjammies

@ChablisandCrisps this effing infuriates me - I work 12-hr shifts with Covid patients and have recently recovered from a mild-moderate case - I have friends who are teachers and they really need to get their shit together and get a sense of perspective - if schools returning is properly managed, risk to teachers will be no worse than anyone else - if people actually looked after their health and spent less time pissing it up on the sofa, they would have less to fear!!!! I am not having a go at you but I am fed up witb hysterical teachers (my dear friends included).

Just read the full thread and someone else posted the exact same article as I did, on page 10. Apologies for posting a duplicate. They also aren’t getting roasted for “not caring about the elderly”

Thanks @llets!

I am very scared. I have high blood pressure and a cardiovascular abnormality - none of which has stopped me from living a normal life up to now, but I'm definitely at higher risk of death than most. I'm also a single parent to two disabled children and if I get ill - let alone die - there is no one who could look after them. I'm reliant on everyone else to try and keep the rate of infection down. Please please do what you can to help everyone else even if you think you will be ok.

The point is you don't know how your body will react to it

but some of us do know - statistically, evidence lets us know that we won't react well to it due to age, underlying conditions, weight, ethnicity and over-reactive immune systems such as mine - so, yes, it's really really scary.

Of course for some people it is really really scary, because of underlying conditions, but for the vast majority of people under 70 it shouldn't be. That doesn't mean they shouldn't reduce their exposure/take reasonable precautions and that they shouldn't be careful about passing the virus on, but there is a great deal of unhelpful hysteria about how, for example, sitting on a bench or having a picnic is literally killing people.

I mean, how unlucky would you have to be to pick up a virus from sitting on some grass for a picnic? Unless you live in the most densely populated city imaginable where people are sneezing liberally over every green space, it would be remarkably unlikely for there to be any virus there at all.

I'm a nurse, been working on a covid ward. Have had 5 colleagues from my ward confirmed with covid and also a colleague I used to work with at another hospital has died

Even the highest risk groups have a 90% chance of surviving the virus so statistically there is no-one who is 'extremely unlikely' to survive the virus...

Except half of mumsnet apparently!

I've been up/down between terrified and not that worried. Currently sitting at 'apprehensive about a second spike' but feel that (sadly) this is the new normal and I've adjusted to it.

Most people have more chance of dying in a road accident than from cv19.

It’s different for the frail or people with underlying health issues. Most of us should really get back to work and school while health officials get a grip on care homes.

Because it seems the sensible thing to do

I spoke to a doctor the other day as he and a few of his team are currently caring for my uncle who has Covid.
The doctor said that they are still learning about the virus, they don't know how long you're immune to the virus, and whether my uncle can catch it again if he's been discharged.
At the moment they think about 3months, could be more we don't know.
So let's say you caught it and recovered, your immune from catching it again but only for 3 months, and then we get hit with the mutated version of the virus. You catch that then what? It's not going to be the same, it'll be worse.

So yeah I'm a bit skeptical if things go back to normal so soon.

It's a gamble. Is it better to wait for round two which could be worse. Or less severe. Or build up immunity now which may help if it does mutate as your body is more used to it. But then you might be weakened by round one. All a gamble.

Wakey wakey! Have you seen the latest news coming from those countries in Europe that have begun the exit of lockdown? Maybe not? But think on.....

FACT - Germany is beginning to go back into a second lock down due to the rise in infections and deaths since the restrictions were lifted.

FACT - Spain is seeing a second surge of cases

FACT - Britain has the highest death rate in Europe

FACT - On Thursday a further 3 week lock down was announced.

On a personal level of my 3 (adult), children, 2 are in the shielding group, one has had Covid 19, & thankfully survived but he had a really rough time of things. My husband is 70 next birthday, and I have a number of 'pre-existing conditions'. I'm not terrified of the virus, but I do have a healthy respect for it.

No it doesn't kill everyone, but it does kill far more than our usual winter flu. I believe that we have a responsibility towards those less able to fight the virus to take all and any precautions to give scientists a chance to come up with a vaccine. In the meantime hopefully scientists are close to be able to produce a reliable antibody test which would be feasible as a countrywide test at that point the lock down restrictions could be lifted for those who tested positive.

Like many I vacillate between 'it's not going to be that bad' and 'oh f**k you've had to call an ambulance for him?' Hindsight is the only exact science here folks, so hats off to us all getting throughiti in our own way.

Yeah, that's what they are saying in Sweden. The rest of us are just pushing it into autumn/winter. Stunning idea.
FACT it's not going anywhere, it's here to stay
FACT lifting lockdown leads to subsequent rises in infection. No shit Sherlock. Now, next month, next year, same story

Catch it now, catch it later, whatever. Most of us are catching it. Ideally not those in the vulnerable/shielding group, but to keep them safe the rest of us can't hide away forever.

Sally Britain doesn’t have the highest death rate. Where are you getting your info?

The BBC were reporting more deaths in the UK than anywhere else. Not sure if has the highest death rate as a % though.

It doesn't