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Shielded people and a second wave

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SistemaAddict · 06/05/2020 20:04

Just thinking about a possible second wave. If people are shielded during this first wave, will they be shielded in the second too? I'd assume so. What happens if there's a third wave? Will we keep getting 12 week shielding advice. I feel like I'll be staying shielded for ages.

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ChablisandCrisps · 06/05/2020 20:06

Worrying isn't it. Can't see many employers keeping people on if this is the case, I'm a civil servant and would be dismissed for medical inefficiency with a small payout if I couldn't provide "regular and effective service".

ChavvySexPond · 06/05/2020 20:17

Those of you who have been careless enough to get a pre-existing condition must stay indoors forever now because Karen has had to restrict her activities for six whole weeks and she couldn't stand it. And why should she when she's fit and well?

ItsMsActually · 06/05/2020 20:19

I fucking hate the 'Karen' thing. It's classist and sexist.

Lumene · 06/05/2020 20:20

The people not abiding by lockdown tend to be younger men, doubt any of them are called Karen.

BeyondMymymymyCorona · 06/05/2020 20:21

I want to know how shielding a second/third/fourth time will work with small children who due to their normal child-clinginess will not stay 2m away from mum at all times. Obv the schooling question has already been asked, but I want to know what will happen with the DCs seeing their dad - they've been shielded alongside me perfectly happily as it was lower risk to me than them travelling between us, but I doubt he will be happy with it longer term. But being with him and his lackadaisical social distancing (he's not stopped socialising for one...) will make returning home to me an issue.

endofthelinefinally · 06/05/2020 20:22

I am shielding. Fortunately I am also retired.
I have been isolating since early February as it was obvious what was coming. I will continue to isolate because I will probably die if I catch it. I just want to stay alive a bit longer, for my dc.

Ughmaybenot · 06/05/2020 20:22

I fucking hate the 'Karen' thing. It's classist and sexist.
This exactly.

I really don’t know OP, but I’ll be glad to read some opinions on it.

MissBax · 06/05/2020 20:23

Has anyone got any clue what the plans might be for people shielding once restrictions are lifted? If people are to go back to work or allowed to socialise will vulnerable/pregnant/elderly people be advised not to?

Ruddle91 · 06/05/2020 20:24

Following this as I'm concerned it could go on for ages :/

BeyondMymymymyCorona · 06/05/2020 20:24

ExH's name isn't Karen either. Though I'd bet that if someone guessed a male class/generation equivalent name, they would probably be right

Tatty101 · 06/05/2020 20:25

The thing is, shielding is hard, really hard.

I'd rather shield as many times as it takes than catch this, put more stress on the NHS at this time and put myself at serious risk. We didn't get the letter because it was fun for NHS England so I'd rather take that advice seriously.

Sexnotgender · 06/05/2020 20:26

I’d love to know the answer to this too.

My 16 year old daughter is shielding and obviously needs to go back to school at some point.

EatShitBoswell · 06/05/2020 21:27

** Good question OP! I've been thinking about this too. My mum is really lonely but obviously the risk to vulnerable people isn't just going to disappear and I really don't want to lose her so it's really scary to think about how long this might go on.

ExH's name isn't Karen either. Though I'd bet that if someone guessed a male class/generation equivalent name, they would probably be right

Tony?

EatShitBoswell · 06/05/2020 21:30

Oh I bolded the wrong section of my post 😭 again!!

aWeaponCalledtheWord · 06/05/2020 21:30

i’m in the swing of it now, and i’ll die if it get it so i’m staying in.

70sduvet · 06/05/2020 21:38

I phoned the (New?) Coronavirus helpline in northern Ireland today to confirm something regarding my son's shielding letter. He is 7.
We got the letter weeks ago.
I was told to start the 12 weeks from today.

So what's that... end of July?
I can't see the shielding ending at all they just don't want to say it.

But we don't know how to go forward either. How do you sheild a young child?

Newjez · 06/05/2020 22:03

It's one thing to lose your job because of cv19. It's another to be prevented from getting a job because you are vulnerable. I would like to see some sort of financial protection for those shielding.

Tolleshunt · 06/05/2020 22:09

Worried, as Dh is shielded, but DD is 4 and needs to go back to school. I also need her in school so I can work and keep a roof over our heads. Not sure how this can work..,,

mumwon · 06/05/2020 22:24

so if you (or dp/h/w or significant other) are over 70 plus vulnerable but not as far as you can gather/know shielding how long are you (& ditto) suppose to shelter/isolate & not meet up with your family
will it be allowed/ok to meet up or not - it doesn't seem that clear - there is some talk of small group but that isn't clear as to who wont be allowed/advised against joining this -
if this sounds confused than that expresses how I feel

Methtones · 06/05/2020 22:28

I wish theyd be upfront and give us a clue.

Cupcakegirl13 · 06/05/2020 22:30

I don’t think there will be a time when the gov come out and say it’s officially safe for shielded to go out , until many many months down the line.
In reality a large chunk of shielded people and their families will have to find a way to exist whilst managing the risk as best they can. We are shielding my 5 year old but my husband has to go to work he can’t stay off indefinitely and still get paid.
I try to apply some perspective though and sometimes the people on threads like this who declare they will die if they get it are very unhelpful because if you look at the death rate for people with Pre existing conditions that is simply not true you generally still have over a 90% survival rate.
The shielded will have to live with a degree of risk like they always do anyway with many other illnesses and risks.

BlueBrian · 06/05/2020 22:32

The latest guidelines say that shielded people will be banned from working unless it's from home, this is obviously tricky, because if you can't work from home and your employer won't keep you on, you've got no way of earning any money, You can't claim unemployment pay because you can't look for work. The government haven't as yet made any suggestions about what exactly they expect people to live off, though knowing this lot, they'll probably say SSP, which is completely inadequate for most people.

www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/governments-draft-plan-to-ease-lockdown-workpace-in-full

BlueBrian · 06/05/2020 22:46

Sorry working from home should read working at home.

ViciousJackdaw · 06/05/2020 23:05

What would you prefer? The whole country to remain at a standstill indefinitely?

Keepdistance · 07/05/2020 01:14

But what is the point as so many vulnerable and so many shielding have dc

Trusting hundreds of others not to have it incl asymptomatic or mildly enough to keep kids off. Plus reading on fb people saying about not doing the 14d as it's ssp and not enough to live on..

Im assuming gov were onoy planning 1 huge wave so shielding has been messed up because we have lots of virus but not that much immunity.

To get a better idea of risk we need to know how many asthmatics have had it mildly or needed o2 but not icu etc. Could be risks are much higher as many asthmatics arent going out as shielded or vulnerable.

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