AIBU to think in the future we will look back on this and think this was such a big overreaction?

[JUSTJUDY10101]

Preparing myself to get flamed for this.
Isn't it true that the majority of us will get mild symptoms and not even notice we really had it?
Yes hundreds of people are dying a day from it and yes they are not just numbers, but are they dying 'of' it or 'with' it?

People.die everyday, why have we locked down for this but we never did for the swine flu?

Is it worth ruining the economy for?

I just want other thoughts incase i'm just being stupid

[ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs]

@cantory, yes, I think for some people their mental health will actually improve without the stress of work/ school etc. I do appreciate that there will be people with health anxiety issues that will be having a bad time but I can't imagine lifting lockdown would make them feel any better. I'm struggling to understand how people feel easing lockdown will immediately assuage their mental health issues

[JemimaPuddleCat]

Again @JUSTJUDY10101 Why did you name change for this thread?

[ToffeeYoghurt]

I think it's brilliant you've taken on board other people's opinions OP. You asked the questions and might disagree with many of us but you listened to other views. I respect that and it's refreshing to see. Goodnight and I hope you stay safe too.

[Cakemonger]

Yes Thinkingbout1t. The govt was weak and slow to act in the face of the facts. Johnson cheerfully talking about shaking Covid patients' hands etc. This emotionally detached 'pffff what a load of nonsense, it's not that bad' attitude has been pretty catastrophic.

[Jenasaurus]

If no measures had been put in place and a lot more NHS staff, as a result were over stressed and overworked and then caught the illness and died, it would lead to many others dying as no one would be around to care for them. As it is the death rate is horrific, but it could have been so much worse. I just hope there isnt a significant 2nd spike.

On a personal level my DD lost her 21 year old uni friend to this virus, my ex lost his boss, (although in his 60s was a fit and healthy runner that took care of himself) and 2 of my colleagues (I work for an ambulance trust) are fighting for their lives after working on the frontline, so definitely wont look back and think we over reacted.

[cantory]

@ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs For some people routine does make a big difference. For others getting practical help such as with childcare makes a big difference as does being able to meet with friends and family.
For some people with more serious mental health conditions though the reduction in the pace of life has really helped them. And some who are suicidal have been far less so. Not everyone obviously, but the assumption I keep seeing that everyone's mental health gets worse under lock down is not borne out by some people working in the field.

[FoolsLemonTree]

ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs We are not being asked for much. Just to stay at home with the people we love

Well that sounds rather nice. But you've forgotton the people who are having to stay at home separated from the people they love.

Until you've been through weeks of isolation, yearning to hug someone you love but having no physical or face to face contact with others, I don't think you can understand how awful it is. I didn't realise in the first week or two how awful it would be, either.

OP Mental health has always been underfunded and I hope this kicks the government up the bum that money needs to be put into it

I agree, but what they'll do if anything is some kind of short-term intervention or special fund for people who have been bereaved by covid or work on the front line. People with existing MH issues who were just about scraping by with no service but who are totally fucked up by the lockdown/isolation will be left on the scrapheap, as ever.

[7Days]

Everyone is separated from someone we love, FoolsLemonTree. If we are lucky enough to have someonecwe love. Elderly parents that dont live with us, siblings, grown up children. We get it.

[GirlsInGreen]

Lock down measures were a needed over reaction. South Korea lifted the UK's pandemic plan our plan, because it was so measured, and backed by the best scientific outbreak protocols.
They had a much softer regime - but of course they tested, traced & isolated using the plan we should have.
But as Grant Shapps said on Marr " You can't help where you start from" - except you can really...

[ohtheholidays]

I don't think it's an overation at all.

If I caught this horrible illness it would very very likely kill me!

I have 2DC that are disabled so we've had to be as careful as possible for them as well as me.

I have 5DC (2 of my DC are disabled)a DH and a very young Grandson(our first Grandchild)and I know that if I was lost because of this illness they would all really really struggle and sadly I think for quite a while if the past is anything to go by when I was rushed into hospital seriously ill.

Some of us have no choice but to take it seriously and I am so greatful that for the most part other people are taking it very seriously because my DH has to go out to shop for us all and to pick up my prescriptions so the more people that do what they're being asked to do the less chance there is of him and God knows how many more carers catching covid and passing it onto the one's they care for.

[FoolsLemonTree]

cantory
For some people with more serious mental health conditions though the reduction in the pace of life has really helped them.

I hope you're not trying to imply that people who are finding this really difficult are somehow not really seriously mentally unwell?

And some who are suicidal have been far less so.

And some more so.

Not everyone obviously, but the assumption I keep seeing that everyone's mental health gets worse under lock down is not borne out by some people working in the field.

What I'm hearing is a mixed picture, with some people feeling better and some being pushed over the edge, including to suicide. For myself, I am really hanging on by my fingernails. For a lot of today I was totally detached, terrified and weeping and unable to care for myself in a basic way. It's really frightening me how much I'm deteriorating from the isolation. And whilst I think I'll survive lockdown, I don't think I'll be able to keep going afterwards. Knocked down one too many times to get up again. I can see the slower pace of life etc can be really helpful for people, it's doing it in isolation that's the issue, totally unnatural for humans to live like that, and if people have MH issues they will often have an element of trauma that is reassured by the presence of others.

[TwelveMonkeys]

I think and hope we will look back and see that the media coverage and subsequent panic/fear among the general public was an over-reaction. The state response, not so much. I mean, it's pretty conclusive that health systems would have been quickly overwhelmed, leading to many more deaths, had we not closed schools/businesses and encouraged people to stay home. So that was a sensible, logical thing to do.

But the emotion response has been less sensible and logical, for sure.

[CrimeAndMumishment]

UK deaths - 25,000
Taiwan deaths - 6

Even taking into account different population sizes, I think we'll look back and think we UNDER reacted.

[FoolsLemonTree]

7days Everyone is separated from someone we love, FoolsLemonTree. If we are lucky enough to have someonecwe love. Elderly parents that dont live with us, siblings, grown up children. We get it.

I was replying to a poster who said we're being asked to "stay at home with the people we love", seemingly oblivious to the separaton that's going on.
And being separated from some people you love is not the same as being separated from all of them.

[Guylan]

Not another one.

No, there have been 30,000 extra deaths compared to the five-year-average in the UK since the first Covid-19 death was recorded.

[Littleposh]

What I find most fascinating is that @JUSTJUDY10101 is happy to respond to those she can be scornful towards but is not replying to anyone that gives a reasoned argument against her views. That says it all really

[excitedmumtobe87]

It’s only been two to three months.

People perhaps asked the same during at this stage of the plague, Spanish flu, two world wars etc,

They also perhaps asked the same of other threats that didn’t pan out so drastically.

So we may look back at think as you say Op and we may not.

Whatever the hindsight, at this moment we were right to be cautious.

[sobeyondthehills]

@ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs

I suffer from a shit ton of mental health problems and for the first week or so I actually enjoyed not doing the school run and my partner being round to help and we work well together with the homeschooling, however I am now really struggling with having no alone time, we only have a communal garden, so we can't use that, my routines are all out of place and my sleep is much worse.

Also added to this because of my anxiety I am very worried that because I haven't had to do the school run or really be able to go out, that I am going to take a massive step back in terms of being able to take my son to school when they open up the schools again and its really important that he starts attending again, because he is starting to be effected with not seeing his friends and he thrives on the routine in school. Also I am really shit at how they do Maths now thank God my partner understands

This country couldn't cope with mental health as it was, long waiting time to see someone and the children's mental health services are a joke, so when the lockdown is lifted, I think we are going to see alot more deaths because of people's mental health problems

[My2centsare]

I agree, OP. This madness needs to stop. Some people really cannot grasp the concept that a lot of people are dying with it and not of it.

[1forAll74]

It's not an overreaction at all. This has been, and still is, a very dangerous virus, and an unknown one..It had the potential to be much more catastrophic if government rules hadn't been made. I had distant relatives, who were wiped out in the Spanish flu in 1918, when about 60 million people died world wide. Obviously we have now moved on in modern times. with medical and scientific things, but situations like this, have to be viewed as very dangerous.

[MrsNettle]

Please have a look at this data. This website comapres death rates from the last few years in a given country (scroll down for UK). This is much more meaningful than comparing death rates with other countries or just saying 28,000 deaths here due to CV when you don't know how many people normally die. This shows significant increase in mortality rate against previous years in the same period. www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/

[MrsNettle]

However, I think that now that the NHS had a chance to catch up, we need to relax the lockdown and sadly learn to live with the virus.

[PowerslidePanda]

Even WITH lockdown, we've seen the highest rate of deaths in a single week since records began. We have not over-reacted.

[OgoPogo8]

Another vote for the OP being stupid.