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Ireland plans for Phased re-opening

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EverythingChanges321 · 01/05/2020 21:19

The Taoiseach (Irish PM) has announced tonight a 4 phase period for re-opening the country but has said that schools will remain closed until September.
Must admit, I’m happy about the delay as I was worried about how I’d manage DS attending school with his dad cocooning as DH has a blood cancer.
Also, that small social gatherings of friends can begin on 18th May outdoors, providing still maintaining social distancing rules. That’s really lifted my spirits as I’m missing seeing my friends.
Any other Irish mumsnetters on here?
What are your thoughts about tonight’s announcement?

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Girlinterruption2020 · 01/05/2020 23:47

But there are no current restrictions in UK - we are just advised not to. You mean in the case that some might be introduced?

Shalom23 · 01/05/2020 23:54

Can you fly abroad?

MyBlueMoonbeam · 01/05/2020 23:57

Would love to see the procedure for social distancing whilst changing a nappy in a creche & how to explain 2m to the under 5s FFS

nowaitaminute · 01/05/2020 23:57

To those of you worried about childcare...several of my friends have managed to get child minders to come to their home while they go to work. They seem to be happy and it is working for them. Child minders in Ireland can go to the children's house or have them at their own house I think. I don't know if you might be able to use that option for the summer months?

Hollyhobbi · 01/05/2020 23:58

@Shalom23 only if you're a fruit picker from Bulgaria going to pick fruit for Keelings!

MyBlueMoonbeam · 01/05/2020 23:59

@nowaitaminute

So... how does that work when we aren't meant to mix households????

MindfullWWer · 02/05/2020 00:04

It looks like a well thought out plan. My question is what about girlfriends and boyfriends meeting up? Surely they can't be expected to socially distance for much longer?

AhComeOnNow · 02/05/2020 00:05

We have a half English, half Irish family (we live in England) so find it very fascinating to see the differences. I think quite a few from UK will jump on this thread but must really understand the differences.

Irish schools would have broken up much earlier for summer anyway than England and Wales - much more incomparable to Scotland. It's much easier to make the decision not to reopen now than it is in England and Wales who will be thinking about school term running until nearly the end of July.

Ireland have roughly half the infection rate of the UK per capita with a much more rural population- so not comparable in that sense with Britain's timeline (although maybe more so with Wales).

As a teacher, I'd love to hear from Irish teachers as to their involvement with home schooling and contact with vulnerable pupils. The only teachers i know in Ireland are all on mat leave so not much help! Here we're on a reduced timetable but when I'm in work I'm so busy keeping up with our vulnerable children. The support we're giving regarding domestic violence, food vouchers, etc, is like nothing I've ever experienced before (And I don't work in a particularly deprived area). Does Ireland have a much more robust 'social services' than England as I worry so much about our children suffering while they're not in school here, and that's with schools 'open' and in contact with families.

I feel the Irish Prime minister is very personable and agree with a lot of his views and policies on this, but it will be interesting to see if talk of reducing lockdown does make people feel we're getting over this and start taking social distancing less seriously, and whether there is much point setting out dates that each stage will happen if they are going to need to be constantly reviewed and changed - and the impact that will have on the general population's mentality.

And where Northern Ireland for into this? Who knows... again, the forgotten country.

nowaitaminute · 02/05/2020 00:06

@MyBlueMoonbeam I have no idea sorry...but all I know is that childminders are doing it and my friends are hiring them so they must be either breaking rules or using a loophole.

lonelySam · 02/05/2020 00:09

Hold on a sec - I am not in Ireland so sort if this is a daft question. If childcare for key workers is closed, how do they work if they have no childcare.?

Barbararara · 02/05/2020 00:09

Among people that I know there has been a lot of flexibility from employers as everyone is struggling in one way or another. I think that will continue and people will find ways to cooperate for childcare until things are back to normal.

There’s been a huge public buy-in on the whole. Even where legislation has been enacted there is a sunset clause so it’s clear that it’s not the thin end of the wedge in terms of civil liberty. It’s a temporary solution to an extraordinary situation.

I think it’s a good plan, broadly speaking, and gives business time to plan for restarting which is important.

Leo’s eyes were sort of shiny when he talked about seeing family again and it’s obvious that he’s missing people too. It comes across that he really cares about what people are going through. I wasn’t a fan of his but I think he’s doing a good job.

LilacTree1 · 02/05/2020 00:11

“ allow visits to households (visits to those who arecocooningcan occur if all parties wear facemasks, gloves and maintain a distance of at least 2 metres away from each other)"

Is that advice, or legally enforceable?!

walksonthebeach · 02/05/2020 00:14

Being able to meet up with 4 people outside of your family is great news

nowaitaminute · 02/05/2020 00:16

@AhComeOnNow I'll write this briefly as I'm going to bed but...
Irish schools are banded in accordance to need and area etc
The schools in deprived areas have a Home school liason (also a qualified teacher!) who helps parents and children in vulnerable families etc, they do home visits, make the phone calls, do parenting classes, help the parents access education etc etc so right now the HCL's are doing a lot of teaching out to families who are vulnerable or those who are not responding to the teachers messages/work being sent.
Also only these deprived schools get free packed lunches too...not every school in Ireland gets lunches, The MAJORITY of children in Ireland bring in a packed lunch, so pretty much most teachers In Ireland don't have anything to do with food to be honest. Any children that a teacher is worried about gets passed on to the principal or the HCL.

frazzledmomof3 · 02/05/2020 00:19

Have to say as as Irish person , I am incredibly proud of our taoiseach Leo. He has done a superb job from the outset
I think being from a medical background has really helped. The measures this evening look good. He had to give people a little freedom as people were becoming complacent.

For one we aren't the laughing stock. Take a look at trump! All he is doing is pointing the finger and looking for compensation. Not to mind his idiotic comments

nowaitaminute · 02/05/2020 00:19

@lonelySam anyone I know has one parent who has opted to take the Covid payment 350 per week and stayed home. Or they have changed shifts to work opposite each other. Some have managed to get a childminder into their home 2-3 days a week.

nowaitaminute · 02/05/2020 00:21

@AhComeOnNow that's supposed to say " reaching out" not "teaching out"

MyBlueMoonbeam · 02/05/2020 00:23

I reiterate - how can childcare ir pre school operate within social distancing rules? It is impossible 🙄 the Government have no clue 🤦‍♀️

Focalpoint · 02/05/2020 00:26

Hold on a sec - I am not in Ireland so sort if this is a daft question. If childcare for key workers is closed, how do they work if they have no childcare.?*
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Other parent, someone else from the family moving in, breaking the rules, not working.

Eloisedublin123 · 02/05/2020 00:28

As an Irish person I’m very proud of how we are handling it and I feel safe

MyBlueMoonbeam · 02/05/2020 00:32

As an Irish person I’m very proud of how we are handling it and I feel safe

I do too and I did until today - how I think they are just winging it tbh 😏

AldiAisleOfCrap · 02/05/2020 00:34

@Girlinterruption2020 But there are no current restrictions in UK - we are just advised not to. You mean in the case that some might be introduced?
You do understand sensible people follow guidelines without there needing to be law?

Focalpoint · 02/05/2020 00:37

I reiterate - how can childcare ir pre school operate within social distancing rules? It is impossible 🙄 the Government have no clue 🤦‍♀️

As I read it, they aren't saying social distancing rules apply in preschools or childcare. Opening childcare for essential workers in phase 3, for everyone else on a gradually increasing basis from phase4.

This is a PLAN, with dates that will change depending on what happens with the disease measures. Alongside this, they are increasing from the current 70,000 tests per week to 100,000 by the 3rd week in May and are upping the contact tracing. (Ireland are planning to do much more testing per capita than the UK and have a lower level of disease)

If things go badly, these measures will be delayed.

rayoflightboy · 02/05/2020 00:38

Also only these deprived schools get free packed lunches too...not every school in Ireland gets lunches, The MAJORITY of children in Ireland bring in a packed lunch, so pretty much most teachers In Ireland don't have anything to do with food to be honest. Any children that a teacher is worried about gets passed on to the principal or the HCL.

We have been getting the box of food,from the school.Its normally the stuff they get in their school lunches.But its been a godsend.Things like soup,beans,wraps,orange juice.

Its been delivered by the head principal,also gave my son a lend of a tablet.

nowaitaminute · 02/05/2020 00:39

@MyBlueMoonbeam ah sure there's always a bit of "winging it" we've never been in this situation before so they have to wing it a bit. But the phasing is a good idea, it means they can step back and forward as needed hopefully

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