Dancing nurses hate

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8245313/Fury-endless-showreel-NHS-staff-dancing-fooling-coronavirus-crisis.html

Are people seriously moaning about this? Are we turning on the nurses now?

Can I just point out that there are doctors and other HCP participating in these dance routines not just nurses. Whilst I don’t agree with them and would never ever participate in one, these videos are obviously made in an attempt to boost morale.

Nurses are not in any way responsible for whether operations or cancer treatments are cancelled, that decision is made much further up the chain than they are. So yes some of them will have less to do than normal, as has most of the working world at the moment, but they are still dealing at close contact with members of the public who may be incubating CV but still infectious with nothing more than a plastic apron gloves and a surgical mask to protect them.

At least these nurse bashing threads give the teachers a break.

It is a 'thing to do' on social media - it has been happening with right on charities and organisations for a while.

It is cringey whoever does it.

I keep hoping it will become 'not the thing to do' They are doing their best to achieve this so I salute them

(Maybe they will also sack the Social Media Experts who think this is a good idea? Keeps hoping)

I'm a nurse and I'm a cancer patient. When I see the carefully orchestrated dances and the empty beds and chairs i do wonder how are these people in war zones, battling to save people. Meanwhile I've been delayed on chemo, had targeted therapy pushed to 4 weeks instead of 3, had my scans postponed and dont see an onc. I dont begrudge the dancing but when so many people are worried, and they say they are in war zones maybe dance outside of the hospital in their own time. It just is a bit unprofessional

but they are still dealing at close contact with members of the public who may be incubating CV but still infectious with nothing more than a plastic apron gloves and a surgical mask to protect them

As are shop assistants, transport workers etc.

There is no ‘nurse bashing’, if you read the thread then you will see that lots of us are nurses or medics.
Please don’t try to shut down other people’s opinions with that.

People are being bloody miserable. Our NHS staff are normal people not martyrs or robots. Let them have some fun. I wouldn't begrudge a dance mob of soldiers or whatever either, war zone or otherwise

I have just taken a call from the admissions manager about my DC’s important but non urgent surgery.
She was really kind and explained that there is a delay because whilst the department/ medical specialism concerned hasn’t been affected the anaesthetists have been diverted to all the extra ICU / ventilator needs. It is a big regional hospital that takes acute cases from all over the SE.

The videos are either silly / fun / childish... they don’t ‘represent’ the NHS or undermine what is actually happening in a day to day basis.

They are ephemeral. They make as much difference to the actual care on offer as being given a half price Easter Egg.... it is all ephemeral to the actual reality.

Click and move on.

My Facebook feed is filled with people posing in masks and basking in the glory of comments telling them how amazing they are and thanking them for “all they’re doing to help save lives” hmm. I know where these people work. They are soo far from the frontline.

She wasn’t doing this but this made me me think of my aunt who is a healthcare assistant and also very far from the ‘frontline’. She was also having two weeks off as annual leave as lockdown began. She felt quite embarrassed and awkward when a neighbour dropped off flowers on her doorstep to thank her for her hard work ‘saving lives’, knowing she worked for the NHS. Obviously she works hard and appreciates when people are grateful... but really she felt like she should return the flowers. We told her it’s fine and leave it - it’s not up to her to correct other people’s misplaced and ill informed hero worship.

@Unusualbloodgroup so who out of that group of workers that you mentioned have to go in and physically turn a patient? Clean them up when they’ve been incontinent? You cannot maintain social distancing and care for patients and if you are a nurse then you will know that. Oh and please don’t tell me what to do.

It doesnt bother me, but as a non-nhs key worker, my bosses would be pissed off if i spent work time dancing and videoing.

They are ephemeral. They make as much difference to the actual care on offer as being given a half price Easter Egg.... it is all ephemeral to the actual reality

We know that of course but in my opinion it is unprofessional and undermines some people’s confidence. There is a whole raft of social media policies within the NMC and GMC , maybe they should be taken out then.

Once again, just because you don’t mind and understand, that doesn’t mean that other people don’t find their anxieties and fears exacerbated by these videos.
They are everywhere, it’s unavoidable, on the news, social media, local papers.

Everyone needs to be considered in this, not just those who find it funny.

A question for the HCP on this thread, have any been done at your unit/hospital? None have at ours and those that have must have gone through their manager first?

Hospital's are empty because the lockdown is working.

They're empty because they've cancelled nearly everything. My OH was mid-cancer treatment and got a curd phone call on the morning of one infusion to say it was cancelled. He's been phoning twice a week ever since to find out if/when it will start again, but can't get past the receptionists (who are working from home) and not a single specialist nurse/consultant has contacted him despite him being promised they would. Upto Feb, he had to have monthly blood tests which apparently were essential to monitor various levels. Now they don't matter anymore - neither the GP surgery nor the oncology dept are doing that kind of routine blood test anymore.

So basically, he's a cancer patient just been thrown to the wolves. And no, he wouldn't have died anyway - his type of cancer has very high survival rates, but will definitely be fatal before Summer if his treatment doesn't re-start soon.

It would be nice if someone from ocology could actually phone him (as requested many times) to tell him what their plan is. But obviously they're too busy learning dance routines!

I won't be doing the North Korean clap tonight as my husband has had all his much needed physio cancelled.

@Bornlazy have you seen the number of deaths from London transport workers? You think the only risk is from turning patients over? They are being spat at, given little to no cleaning equipment and no PPE.
Is it not possible to have a balance discussion without being accused of bashing my own profession?

@Kazzyhoward your dh absolutely should be kept informed about his treatment it must be a terrifying time for people with cancer. I think that most hospitals will be working on a way to restart treatment whilst keeping the patients as safe as possible from CV.

Hospital's are empty because the lockdown is working

^ bloody hell, people believe this? Hospitals are empty because non-covid medicine has stopped & infections peaked before lockdown.

@Unusualbloodgroup you can have as many balanced discussions as you like but you told me I was trying to shut down other people’s opinions which I’m not. You on the other hand...

It is possible to erect a screen to try and protect transport workers the same cannot be said for nurses. By the way I have the utmost respect for anyone who is still out there working with the public.

"Hospital's are empty because the lockdown is working

^ bloody hell, people believe this? Hospitals are empty because non-covid medicine has stopped & infections peaked before lockdown."

The government could kick their dog and some people would think they had done it for the dog's benefit.

glad if nurses are getting a bit of hero worship

Why? They're trained professionals doing a job they are paid for. The vast majority won't have any contact with a COVID19 patient so God knows why the Co-op are giving them 10% off!

And even those who are still dying if covid are dying at home because no one will admit them to hospital.

Hospitals maybe empty bit the numbers dying are still high because dont overwhelm the NHS has become dont let anyone in to hospital. Why are people being left home struggling to breathe when there beds waiting for them?

Kazzyhoward I am so, so sorry that your poor husband has been abandoned like this. You must both be terrified of the eventual outcome. I can certainly understand how he must feel like he’s been thrown to the wolves, I really hope that he gets some answers soon.
It really makes me angry that NHS trusts haven’t dedicated private hospitals to cancer patients so that their treatment can continue or begin. Covid 19 is not the only killer disease but the way the Government go on nothing else matters.

It’s awful to hear that treatments have been stopped. Sorry for people going through this.

I’m hope it’s a bit reassuring to I reiterate that we have not stopped cancer treatment in my trust.

They're empty because they've cancelled nearly everything. My OH was mid-cancer treatment and got a curd phone call on the morning of one infusion to say it was cancelled. He's been phoning twice a week ever since to find out if/when it will start again, but can't get past the receptionists (who are working from home) and not a single specialist nurse/consultant has contacted him despite him being promised they would. Upto Feb, he had to have monthly blood tests which apparently were essential to monitor various levels. Now they don't matter anymore - neither the GP surgery nor the oncology dept are doing that kind of routine blood test anymore

Kazzy that's inexcusable. It is absolutely bizarre to be praising the fact hospitals are half empty. How many patients are being denied vital treatment as a consequence? This is a clusterfuck of epic proportions. NHS management and the government are to blame. The message 'protect the NHS' is an explicit example of the dysfunctional relationship between patients and healthcare provider. The NHS is supposed to protect patients Instead, there's pot banging, dancing nurses and cancelled cancer treatment. Heads should roll for this.

Hospital's are empty because the lockdown is working

Bollocks. The ward my DC should be on having important planned surgery (delay affects the quality of his life, not his life) is closed because the anaesthetists are re-deployed managing sedation and ventilators in an expanded / extended ICU provision. And they are obviously wanting to keep people away from hospitals where possible because of the increased infection risk / social distancing issues.

Obviously this is a totally different situation to that of Kazzy.

My DC’s surgery is important but not connected to anything potentially life-limiting. And it is a dedicated department where consultants / specialist nurses etc could not just be switched to oncology.

Really sorry that is happening Kazzy : it is wrong.