Dancing nurses hate

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8245313/Fury-endless-showreel-NHS-staff-dancing-fooling-coronavirus-crisis.html

Are people seriously moaning about this? Are we turning on the nurses now?

The way we were braced for this and the videos coming out of Spain and Italy a few weeks ago had many of us believing people would be packed in the corridors in an exceptionally bad way, completely overran and overstretched.

@XmasRibbons, I may be wrong but I thought the ITU wards in Italy that were really struggling were because cases were concentrated in certain regions, particularly Lombardy?

I watched two public health experts the other day point out we need to remember this isn’t one national outbreak but pockets of outbreaks across the UK. From this I presume some ITU and critical wards in hospitals across the UK will be incredibly busy whilst others ok. I presume the NHS England, Wales and Scotland have to though cancel many non CoVid treatments as the hospitals need to be prepared if an outbreak hits in their area.

I read today we now have 18,000 hospital deaths and even govt admit many thousands more have. died outside of hospital, mainly care homes, that are not included in the 18,000 hospital deaths figure. These are high numbers for a few weeks period and this is obviously a serious situation in my view.

Completely inappropriate and offensive, disturbingly so to me. I don't even agree with anyone in uniform working for a government organisation doing any video.

Unless it is as a part of their work, I should have added.

and now's just the right time to flog the NHS off to the American healthcare companies

The last Labour govt saddled the UK with 200 billion in PFI liabilities That was the sell off. The interest alone will plague the UK for decades. Clap. Clap. Clap.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/18/taxpayers-to-foot-200bn-bill-for-pfi-contracts-audit-office

Aren't the Amarillo ones something to do with Peter Kay's Big Night in fundraiser.

I agree that it is getting too much now. The stay at home messages and fundraisers are fine, but do the moral boosting (and it is needed) off social media.

I cringe when I see it.

Anyone remember MASH it sort of reminds me of that.
Things that wouldn't happen in a warzone, but for some reason did.

I’m not in the NHS and can’t get too worked up about it. But I have neighbours who are nurses who have said the same thing - it’s not a good look. It does rather give the impression that the situation is not as bad as the media are portraying, and reconciles with the stories from local nurses who seem to suggest that in our area at least, things are going better than expected. I don’t think that’s reflective of the UK as a whole though.

That said, I don’t recall these types of images coming out of Italy when they were at peak, I can’t imagine they were singing and dancing as they were deciding which patients deserved to live.

Anyone remember MASH it sort of reminds me of that. Things that wouldn't happen in a warzone, but for some reason did.

Ahh yes, that documentary following a US field hospital.....

We can’t go on like this. There needs to be some separation of healthcare.

Give it time, my guess is the Nightingales will become isolation units leaving the regular hospitals to deal with non covid issues. Patients will be tested before they are admitted. As I say that's my guess.

Just to add to my earlier comments we're not seeing this from mainland Europe nurses. Just their heartbreak and frustration

I suspect the nurse in the ICU's and covid wards are working hard and are frustrated and heartbroken. Not so much involved in the dancing videos.

The ones dancing are probably just in the rest of the hospital, away from the busy covid areas, and not on the frontline, but why somenif them are dressed in much needed PPE who knows

I don't understand why NHS staff aren't being furloughed on 80% pay given so many services/operations/screenings have been cancelled. I know ITU are busy in some hospitals and some staff have been redeployed there from other wards but there must be thousands of staff twiddling their thumbs. Or making cringey videos.

Aye I'm a bit fed up of it. I don't begrudge the NHS staff anything, they should have breaks and they should have pay rises and all the rest of it. But these daft videos have had their day.

Many nurses have more time on their hands now than ever so I get that they're bored. But the videos are cringe.

Frederica “ don't understand why NHS staff aren't being furloughed on 80% pay given so many services/operations/screenings have been cancelled.”

I’d rather they look at ways of getting patients who had cancer treatment etc cancelled back on the books, and then...no need for furlough.

I don’t like the videos.

I am a retired nurse,have been looking aghast at how many of these nurses have hair hanging down round their shoulders and jewellery on.

It is not surprising how quickly infection spreads.

I’d rather they look at ways of getting patients who had cancer treatment etc cancelled back on the books, and then...no need for furlough

So would I LilacTree but that's not happening, is it? And I find that more terrifying than COVID-19.

It doesn't interest me but I imagine they were dancing in their break time, the idea being to cheer people up who are stuck at home. Strikes me as harmless enough.

No direct personal experience here, but speaking to friends who are hospital doctors, they are pissed off.

They told me they and their colleagues in Covid wards are busting a gut.

However the non Covid wards are virtually empty, with procedures cancelled and sadly people in need not wanting to be in hospital.

They told me there is a big separation in the hospital with some staff having very little to do whilst others are working long hours in very difficult circumstances.

They get home from a long shift in full PPE to see staff in the same hospital (quote) "pratting around, making dance videos that took more time to plan that I get eat and shit in a shift" is (again quote) "fucking insulting".

So I absolutely support frontline workers, but I think there is a lesson here about the appropriateness of some content being shared on social media and thought needed about it resonates, even if it's well intentioned.

Flax - a lot of COVID wards are quiet too. And lots of NHS trusts have more than adequate PPE.

I counted 21 workers in the video from Devon, completely unacceptable.

The last Labour govt saddled the UK with 200 billion in PFI liabilities. That was the sell off. The interest alone will plague the UK for decades. Clap. Clap. Clap.

I appreciate I am going off track from the central topic of discussion in this thread responding to BovaryX’s comment above.

PFI under Blair’s govt turned out to be costly and a big mistake but does not preclude that the Condem and subsequent Conservative govt gave the smallest annual increases to NHS funding, 1.1% and 2.3% respectively, between 2010 and 2018 since the inception of the NHS 75 years ago. Theresa May in 2018 and then this govt under Johnson pledged an annual 3.6% increase to the NHS budget. The Institute of Fiscal Studies though said that increases of at least 4% a year on average are needed in order to meet the NHS’s needs and see any improvement in its services.

The privatisation of the NHS began slowly in the mid 80s with Thatcher, PFI under Blair was a costly mess and many experts in this area have shared they believe ramped up privatisation is embedded in the Condem coalition’s 2012 Health Care Act.

To the private sector, the NHS' £120 billion annual budget is a bottomless treasure chest which they would love to get even more a slice of. Quoting from journalist Sonia Poulton from an article in 2013 a year after the 2012 Health and Social Care Act was passed: ‘According to figures compiled by Social Investigations, an independent research organisation, 64 MPs have financial links with companies involved in private healthcare. Of them 52 are Conservative, nine are Labour and three are Lib Dem. There are also 142 lords with interests.

I think the NHS is even less safe from private for profit health insurers than ever before and do not agree with the view that the NHS is not at risk under this govt and the previous two from continuing to slowly move towards switching to a model more in common with the expensive, unjust US healthcare for profit system. People mention some of the European healthcare models as another possibility but Conservatives show no interest in looking at other European models. Also when countries whose models are often admired such as France, Germany, Spain etc spend a larger % of GDP on healthcare than the UK there is the question it’s not their models are necessarily better but more % of the GDP is spent on it. The Labour Party under Corbyn and I don’t expect will be any different under Starmer don’t discuss other European models but I trust they are willing to spend more on the NHS and bring spending in line with the aforementioned European models. Also they will spend more on social care which cuts by govt has added a further strain to the NHS.

One was done at my work the other day and the doctors, nurses and our ward OT participated - I didn't. They sent out a WhatsApp with the routine and everyone learnt it from there in their own time. The dance was carried out after handover, once the staff in the video had finished their shift and thus were on their own time.

If the dance itself or any preparation was done during working time, our senior charge nurse would drag us over hot coals!

Can't comment for other workplaces though, only my own.

I think they have misjudged the mood of the country.