Government reportedly considering schools going back in 3 weeks

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On BBC News 24 now, article in tomorrow's Sunday Times says that ministers are considering schools going back in three weeks time. Plus allowing some shops and social gatherings, but not pubs and clubs.

Too soon. I won't send my child in.

The research is obviously in German but if you can read German then take a look at it, it’s quite interesting.

Why would the government be planning on providing laptops, tablets & 4G routers to underprivileged children to work at home if schools were going to reopen in the near future?

Hadenoughfornow

I already have done.

I quoted you.

Kids have much fewer receptors in the cells lining their respiratory tract that the virus needs to adhere to to infect the cell. Men have a lot. So kids will have a lower viral load. I think teachers should wear PPE (surgical mask, gloves, apron if looking after young kids) same as health care workers. Social distancing will be a lot easier to achieve in secondary schools. I think as a minimum the year 10 and 12 should go back now.

The research is obviously in German

Link?

IheartNiles

Social distancing will be a lot easier to achieve in secondary schools.

You are having a laugh.

IheartNiles at what age do the receptors develop? Are older teens more at risk? Its interesting research.

Hahahahahahha.

Social distancing is IMPOSSIBLE in secondary schools. What is this MN myth that 14 years olds adhere to social distancing??

Secondary schools are overcrowded , have less adult supervision, thrive in queueing. The behaviour of 14- 16 year olds can be very very difficult, even abusive. And teenagers bundle, shove hug, snog.

@Eyewhisker Superspreaders is a medical term used in ways that don't apply here. No most children are not superspreaders. Most children get mild symptoms.
There is zero evidence that children are less likely to catch this or less likely to pass it on than adults. I have asked for days for evidence that these statements are true. No one ever gives me any evidence. I have seen no evidence anywhere.
Children get infected, most have no symptoms or mild ones, pass it on to school staff, parents, grandparents and others. Some of them get very ill and some die.

Iheartniles , have you come up to the answer to the spread of CV that no scientist has?

@Grasspigeons Anyone age 15 and up has the same risk as young adults, so 0.2% risk of dying.

Nobody will send their kids in to be looked after by teachers wearing surgical masks, aprons and gloves. If that is necessary, just keep schools closed.

hoffi what age are these children? Some secondary age children are nearly adults.

My understanding is that nearly all studies involving children and CV are flawed because they were done while schools were closed.

I’ve said this on another thread. There is early research coming out of Iceland, China and Germany that shows children may not be the super spreaders we thought they could be.

It’s not conclusive but I think it’s really positive that this research is being done and I really hope it shows this is the case. Instead of people being cross and angry this is potentially good news!

All the cases we have had locally (anecdotal I know) but about 10 families. None of the children have had anything more than a slight headache/ tiredness for a day or no symptoms . Viral load is looking important in this disease.

I hope the research can show that as children either don’t get the virus or have very mild symptoms then they carry a small viral load that doesn’t spread as much as seriously ill people. No this hasn’t been proved yet but we are slowly putting together the pieces of this jigsaw.

It’s looking increasing unlikely it will be September before they go back anyway. Which is what most people were so certain about. Things change daily and weekly.

See my PP delatron : those studies are flawed,as they were done while schools were shut. We need to wait now to see what happens in Iceland and Germany with their partial reopenings.

@Piggywaspushed it came from a scientist on the Marr show today. She is developing the vaccine in the Oxford group so think she knows what she’s talking about!

Well you should have cited your source!
All of these scientific studies admit they are problematic because they were conducted while children were exposed to very little risk as they were being kept at home.

@Grasspigeons apparently children do have receptors, just not as many. Women also have fewer than men which may (in part) explain why so many men are badly affected. So said the scientist (vaccine development) on The Marr Show this morning.

Delatron

And anecdotally, here the parent of a child was put in to an induced coma.

It isn't just about the children.

Instead of people being cross and angry this is potentially good news!

once again this is about pointing out the flaws in the argument.

@Piggywaspushed well I just did. And this is biology, nothing to do with children being exposed. They have fewer receptors. That’s it.

Can't speak for hoffi who may well speak German and have read the research cited but I have actually read the Icelandic research. they don't credit their own findings (yet!).

Schools will be the first to know so they can prepare accordingly.

We will be told at the same time as everyone else.

Fripp I can't even be arsed arguing with you.