Those who initially said they weren't at all worried about Covid-19...

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Do you feel naive at all? Maybe the wrong word..

My DH wasn't concerned and was one of the 'it's the flu' and he is now absolutely petrified of what it may do to his parents.

I was nowhere near as concerned as I am now. I was pretty naive in thinking they would be able to stop it like the Ebola outbreak

I wasn’t worried and I’m still not.
Having survived the horrors of Tenerife airport where we must have been cheek but howl with another 2-3000 evacuees and a 6 hour flight home again cheek by jowl with 250-300 passengers a month ago with not so much as a sniffle,I’m taking it all in my stride

In fact I’ve never felt as well as this for a long time.

I’m sorry for those who’ve been really ill and succumbed to it.

Not quite elderly but getting there.

Nope, still not worried. If you check out the Government website. Deaths per week are pretty much the same as last year. That’s a fact, everything else is an opinion.

@Gtugccbjb You are wrong.
6 000 deaths over the past 5 years rolling average the week up to 27th March source ONS

I wasn't bothered at all. I'm front line NHS and I am scared now as are some very experienced Drs I have spoken to.
For people saying they'll be fine if they catch it , how on earth do you know. Some people carry on fine with a common cold , some people are in bed for a week.
You have absolutely no idea how it will affect you.

sofato5miles

No I’m not wrong. Go on the website and check week by week. Do it yourself.

sofato5miles

I’m not talking about Corona deaths - why would I when autopsies arnt even being done. I am talking about total deaths of the population. What does it matter what they “supposedly” died from. The fact it that no more people have died of anything and everything this year than last. That’s a pandemic is it? Not in my book.

The same phenomenon is also happening in Italy - total deaths, no different. Haven’t checked anywhere else but I’ll have a good guess it’s the same story. If you lot chose to take opinion over facts that’s up to you but I’m never going to do that.

Sofa is correct. Comparing the last five years averages, up to the 3rd April this year, 2020 has over 6000 more deaths than those five year averages would have indicated.

Actually that figures gone dramatically down as it’s now taken from 3rd April. It’s about an extra 173 deaths a week in the 5 year average ( nothing to notice) . But that statistic could be completely different if you changed the amount of years was “average”. Statistics ha e their place but can be easily manipulated to suit a narrative. Why not just compare this year and last year? Easier but doesn’t fit the narrative that there’s a pandemic.

2240 is the new figure taken from 3rd April. Deaths rates fluctuate by these kind of amounts constantly.

6,000 more that the eolling 5 year average

Like @BreathlessCommotion, I am recovering from Covid symptoms. It's been nearly a month, it's been shit, I don't think I'll be 100% for some time yet, but for most of us it isn't the Black Death. I wasn't particularly worried before and I'm still not now.

Before anyone starts, that doesn't mean that I don't know or care about people on ventilators/people dying (the 'mild' version of this illness leads to a few night-time thoughts, shall we say...) Nor does it mean that that I'm going to go out acting like I'm immune. I feel badly for people with vulnerable relatives. I feel badly for people whose homes and jobs are at risk. But there is too much catastrophising on here and too many posters with too much time on their hands. I'm going to enjoy my life, it's the only one I've got!

I have always been more fascinated than concerned and that remains the case

From the BBC news website today:

The Office for National Statistics data showed the virus was mentioned on 3,475 death certificates in the week ending 3 April.

It helped push the total number of deaths in that week to more than 16,000 - a record high and 6,000 more than expected at this time of year.

Normally the number of deaths falls as winter ends.

This is because there is less flu circulating.

'Hugely significant'
ONS official Nick Stripe said it was clear the coronavirus pandemic had reversed that trend, saying the rising number of deaths was "hugely significant" given it had happened at the start of April.

"This is not normal," he added.

I’m not worried about getting it myself, think I may have already had it.

But yeah I’m worried for older relatives, for a friend that’s vulnerable etc.

My sympathies go out to nhs and care home staff and relatives of the deceased who can’t be with them or have proper funerals.

But I think the bigger threat is the totalitarian state we have become.

The acceptance of government control has astounded me.

I am a born worrier and yes, I am worried about Corona virus but actually I am more worried about lots of other things.

I'm just scared of how fucked the economy is going to be and how long our poor kiddies are going to have to grow up with the fall out of this.

@Florencemattell I thought the common cold was lots of different viruses not just one, but maybe I am wrong?

I wasn't worried, I'm still not worried. I can't worry about something I have absolutely no control over. I can only do my best to keep safe and keep well. I am more worried about the economy.

an infectious disease expert at Yale Medicine and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory, four common human coronaviruses cause 15-30% of common colds. (Most often, however, the common cold is caused by rhinoviruses,
Yes looks like you are right Clouds , the common cold is called by different virus. But I think we don’t get immunity to any of the Coronavirus ones. I’m not a scientist so would love someone to tell me I’m wrong.

I’m not worried about me, not about death anyway. I’m worried about my parent, who isn’t worried about death either.

I’m massively worried about the economic impact though. DH’s business is about to go under (3/4 weeks) mine probably has 6-8 months. We aren’t the only ones with this issue, both high tax payers with businesses that pay reasonable tax. The “bailouts” aren’t really going to work - certainly won’t save dh’s business- the money will run out and then EVERYONE is screwed. No money for doctor, nurses, equipment, schooling. No point in working in those professions if you don’t have even the basic needs met.
As it is this month “off” will take decades to come out of. That’s what worries me, that’s what keeps me awake, that’s why I’ve not slept longer than two hour slots.

Gtugccbjb - I think you are getting confused with your facts. You can’t dismiss 6,000 extra deaths in the space of a week as within normal levels of fluctuation. That’s a lot more people dying in a week than usual. You can still say you are unconcerned, but it’s ludicrous to persist with the claim that current death rates are completely normal.

@Wordofwarning it’s that that worries me too. I now have no income, at best will be severely curtailed for the foreseeable future if these policies continue. I’m a single parent and don’t know wtf I’m going to do. I don’t qualify for government schemes, despite kind of working for the state. I’d really rather take my chances with the virus.

@Mascotte me too. Fact is people are going to die. I don’t want them too but NO country has found a fail safe way of protecting anyone. And yes, I truly believe China are lying about figures AND not a single person in this country would have wanted to be in lockdown there. So we are going to have unwanted casualties, this lockdown isn’t going to stop that, just the economy and the pressure on the NHS.

They’ve estimated 250,000 will die. They are still going to die just over a protracted economy killing period. I would truly love to be wrong. I really would. But 250,00 dying over 3 months and the economy stabilising or 250,00 dying over 6 months but the rest of the population utterly fucked for decades? It’s like ripping off the plaster. Quick or slow. We aren’t getting out of this without a vaccine and we don’t even appear to be near one yet! Even the govt adverts say stay at home yo save the nhs not to save the 225000 that haven’t died yet...

I feel the same Mascotte. I'm a hair and makeup artist. Even if everything had not been cancelled over the next few months, which it has, I am not permitted to operate (I think - not too sure if I can do mobile or not- they just specify salons) . I'd rather catch the virus then not work. Of course, my job means that I have the potential to be a superspreader so I am aware it's a selfish sentiment.