Cases increasing in north west and north east

[Ciwirocks]

Does anyone know why hospital admissions are continuing to increase in the north west and north east and stabilising elsewhere? I understand that when this started London was 2 weeks ahead of the rest of the UK but if we all locked down at the same time then surely the effects of this will show at the same time? I really don’t think that it’s due to people not adhering to guidelines, buses where I am are empty and everyone I know is a key worker or are working from home/ furloughed etc. I just don’t understand it but as I live in these areas it’s obviously worrying.

Middlesborough were said to be the least likely to follow the rules.They have been flouting them at every opportunity.
We are seeing the effect of Liverpool match with all the spanish coming over.
The lakes have had to put up with dick heads going on holiday/second homes.

I'm NW and most are taking it seriously around Greater Manc and East Lancs.
I think it's because we are two weeks behind London as well, so are getting the big numbers now.

I just saw the hospital admissions graph and it was level for both NE and NW over the past few days so that’s a positive I hope. Too soon to know for sure though.

We’re always behind other parts of the UK in everything 😂. We even started panic buying toilet roll later than elsewhere! We’re far north west and no one really knew anyone that had a confirmed case back when lockdown began (only a few weeks ago). A lot of people still aren’t taking it seriously. And yes as mentioned, the Liverpool game, parties in Manchester and people visiting the Lakes are a big factor.

My worry is that they will ease restrictions countrywide based on what is happening in London and that could potentially be disastrous for us up here. I hope I am wrong with that

I read somewhere this afternoon (can’t remember where now annoyingly) that most of the new cases now are coming from within hospitals and care homes so don’t know if that’s why numbers are climbing in some areas rather than others? More care homes suffering outbreaks in those places possibly?

Yeah it's the lag. It moved from south to north. My family in the north only had 20 deaths in their city whilst we in the south had 100s. Now its evening out.
The Madrid tourists definitely impacted too. I know a taxi driver who died a few weeks after working taking fans to and from the match....

NW were I live is pretty much complying. Other than dog walkers and people out for exercises, the roads are quiet, I don’t see people going in each other’s houses and don’t see loads of teenagers anywhere.

I'm in a rural part of the NW and people are complying in the village where I live.

I'm in a semi-rural area towards the NW and here it's all rather odd. Everyone I know is sticking to the rules but no one I know personally has had CV and I only know of 1 confirmed case in my town. Because it currently doesn't seem to be a real problem, and the government is saying that they're getting it under control, I know a few people who seem to think that we've somehow escaped it and are starting to relax their social distancing etc. I suspect that there is just a time lag and in week or so more people here will get ill- so a very dangerous time to let things slip.

I think my situation is much like fluffyrice ....semi-rural Cheshire here so southern bit of 'NW' and on the whole people are being very compliant, low-ish numbers, and so it doesn't feel like it's a thing that is everywhere and all around.

I agree the risk could be that people think we've escaped it and loosen up behaviours a bit too early.

Near sister, adult children visiting parents and taking the grandchildren, elderly people going in each others houses for brews.
Near us, a few children playing out (not every day but couple times a week), a couple of parties, gangs of teenagers on the park. Friends/neighbours driving to go for family walks to various areas around Greater Manchester and Yorkshire. I know I've now read somewhere that you can now drive for a walk providing the walk is longer than the time taken to drive there but they have been doing this since the schools shut but going every sunny day which is more regular than they do in summer/school holidays.

I’m in south manchester and worried about this but where I am the vast majority are complying. We do see people out on our walks but all families are keeping out of each others’ ways. Unfortunately it looks like it will take a long time to see dropping off cases across the board. Also a nurse friend speculates that there are so many healthcare professionals who have tested positive that they probably increasingly make up for a big chunk of the numbers rather than the wider population.

It's the Madrid match.

Inevitable and obviously mental to have let it (and other major events) proceed.

No honestly cases were high here before the match as I was tracking daily

Did anyone notice that we actually have more cases than france - they have over 20K deaths but of them 12.5k approx are hospitals - we’ve had a third more than that in hospitals already so surely we should be ranking much higher 😱

There were six cases in Liverpool prior to that match Sunshine1239 and none in the surrounding boroughs of Knowsley and Sefton, all of which have been hit really hard so it's totally incorrect to say numbers were high before that match.

I work at aintree and have friends in the surrounding hospitals

It was defo more than 6

From the Guardian and also shown in official stats

On 11 March, the day of the last-16 second-leg match, which was won 3-2 by Atlético and attended by 54,000 people, including 3,000 away supporters, Liverpool had just six confirmed cases of coronavirus Madrid had by then become a centre for the spread of the virus

I'm in central Manchester - people are taking it seriously, and have been for a long time: lots of friends started working from home and keeping their kids home before the official lockdown. The roads are deserted, it's very odd..

I've got family in the North East - took quite a bit of persuading for them to take it seriously back in early March but they've been very careful too since the official lockdown.

I’m to the west of Newcastle and most people are taking it very seriously alas some who are not. On local Facebook pages there’s daily wars from the entitled who believe it’s ok to go out whenever they want or send their kids out to play or start up their business again because they’re skint or have their granny round daily. I overlook one of the roads out of the town and there’s a steady stream of traffic where even a week ago there wasn’t much of anything on the roads.

So I expect cases in the north east to steadily rise.

I see that the government deputy chief scientific advisor is calling for an inquiry into the Liverpool outbreak, to look at the origins of the virus there, and if it can be linked to Spain.
Also the Gloucestershire Trust that covers the Cheltenham area, apparently has twice the number of virus related deaths in comparison to the nearby Trusts of Bristol, Bath and Swindon.
Clearly there is a lot to be discovered and a lot of lessons to be learned.

I'm in Liverpool though and at the time everyone here was incredulous that the match was going on. So if the average person on the street can see how crazy the decision was how can scientific advisors not. Why should this only be looked at after needless deaths and infections. It's an absolute disgrace