Would I be breaking the rules to take toddler out twice?

[newmumagainn]

I had new born and 2.5 year old. If I went for my exercise in the morning and took them both in the double pram to get toddler to nap, and then in the afternoon DH went for his daily exercise pushing the same toddler on his trike to let off some energy and get some fresh air (no garden) would we be rule breaking?

Technically even the law is optional, just that if you go against it and are caught there are consequences.

I actually think some people on MN would quite like to live in a police state.

How would the Police prove for evidentiary purposes that some had been out too much? I mean they couldn't enforce it as it doesn't exist in legislation. Most likely because they couldn't enforce it. We do yet live somewhere whe ur neighbours word is enough to get you imprisoned.

I didn't follow all that. The Regulations are law and say you can go out to exercise (but do not give the number of times).

Gov UK website, coronavirus FAQs, 'when am I allowed to leave the house.' There it says in point 1: 'one form of exercise a day.' (I can't do links.) Point 16: 'What will happen to me if I break the rules.' (Note, rules is the word, not guidelines.)

Yet that is not what the legislation says www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/350/contents/made so they are probably over egging the pudding in that guidance. Guidance is not the law and sometimes the courts find guidance is wrong.

However I am certainly not saying it is a good idea if people go out again and again every day unless that is needed for work.

Yes but that isn't the law @missmouse101 it's guidance. The actual legislation does not give a limit on number of times or amount of times or whether you can drive to get there.

Agree Xenia, I'm not suggesting people go out and about 29 times a day. But nothing wrong with twice a day. Especially for a child.

The police cannot enforce that because it isn't the law. And as said courts often find guidance wrong.

And I know its to avoid interaction, so I suppose it depends on where you go, where you live. Where I am I can easily walk/run without seeing anyone. The odd person I do meet, people are all following social distancing and one of us crosses the road or goes into the road (no traffic) more than 2m.

If you warrant touching things, or locking things or coughing on people it's fine.

Rules is a woolly word - probably used deliberately to imply something is a law when it’s not. All laws are rules, but not all rules are laws.

It's 100% breaking the rules . But maybe you think they don't apply to your family ? Maybe if we all did that where would we be.

Nope not breaking the rules. Except the MN Gestapo ones.

I would be fine if everyone followed the law and the spirit of the guidance (not going out too often, but not limiting the amount of time)

And if that isn't working then the government need to change the legislation.

i would do that without a second thought

Rtft peppa...

I think it's up to you to use common sense. Everyone in my street with a baby or toddler is doing the same.

absolutely.

Mumsnet will tell you that if you go outside your front or back door you are being selfish and not saving our NHS.

Do not go outside anywhere.

hope that helps.

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Honestly don’t ask on here. Despite what some may think, this is the the CPS. Do what feels right to you after reading government advice.

*not

Peppafrig

OMG of course it is breaking the RULES.

Do not under any circumstances go outside with your toddler - how selfish can you be?

Even if you live in a flat and have no garden and no outdoor space whatsoever as Peppafig says DO NOT GO OUTSIDE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WHATSOEVER. it is just selfish and unbelievable.

Ask anyone on mumsnet.

they will tell you never ever to go outside yourself or with your child.

hope that helps.

never ever ever - ever go outside your front door or back door.

SAVE OUR NHS.

@Bubblebu can you read ? I never said don't go out with a toddler ever.

Generally my husband and I will go out for a walk with baby in pram to allow us to get our exercise and to encourage baby to get some of the the nap that they have decided to cut from 2 hours to only an hour. The other day baby refused morning nap so husband took them out then in the afternoon I took baby out when I had my walk. Feel free to ‘report’ me for baby being out twice.