U.K. hospital mortality figures

[Kitchendoctor]

From the Guardian report of the update today:

Today marks a sombre day”, Hancock says, as the death toll has topped 10,000 in the UK.

A total of 19,945 people had now been admitted to hospital, he says, which means about half of all hospital admissions have died.

What is going on with our figures? Based on data from other countries, a 50% mortality rate was expected from those patients poorly enough to require admission to ICU, but should be much lower for hospitalised patients as a whole.

Are people not being admitted until their illness is much more advanced?

What else could be going on here?

Very concerning. Wish I hadn’t read it.

[Derbygerbil]

@CheekyWeeGobshite

I think you’ve got it spot on. If not the figures are even worse than they seem as many of those current in hospital will, unfortunately, die, taking those figures from 50+% to 60-70%! I don’t believe the odds are that bad!

[YeOldeTrout]

I suspect there are about 10k persons with covid currently in hospital in GB. I guess the journalists could be asked for some statistics about place of death? one of you lot tweet Peston or Kunnesberg (etc) with that request.

[Kitchendoctor]

I remember one day this week the hospitalised figure was around 16,000 so it would seem plausible that 19,455 is a current figure, rather than total hospitalisations including previously discharged.

There doesn’t seem to be a written source for this info, so it’s difficult to know what’s going on.

So perhaps it is either a grammar fudge by Hancock or a misinterpretation.

[EmMac7]

This would all be so much clearer if they provided the population with proper data like almost every other country does.

[glueandstick]

I’d be interested to know how full the nightingale hospital is now. It’s all gone very quiet.

[Thighmageddon]

I'd like some proper data on all this rather than the muddied stuff we're being given.

I have read though that it's looking likely we will be the worst hit European country by the end of this. Probably because you have to be desperately ill before you get admitted here rather than say Italy that showed lots on oxygen rather than on ventilators, getting treated much earlier in the disease.

I'm sure I worked out the mortality rate in my area was around 9% of confirmed and admitted to hospital cases.

[Shitsgettingcrazy]

It's not like that in every trust.

My friend has been admitted. She was having difficulty breathing. Her lips werent blue, nor did she feel like she was drowning.

They came did the usual tests (BP etc) and decided to take her in.

[Humphriescushion]

Yes they need to give accurate figures on this, it is very unclear and these figures are important.

[helpfulperson]

I've found the Scottish Gov figures easy to follow. Each day they tell you the total number of tests, the total number of positives, the total number of deaths and the current numbers in hospital and the current number in ICU. There is also good explanations of the figures and why the figures produced weekly by the National Records Scotland are slightly different.

[CherryPavlova]

Weekend reporting is always low.
There is dry new guidance about changing how deaths are reported to keep the figure below 1, 000 per day.

[Thighmageddon]

There is dry new guidance about changing how deaths are reported to keep the figure below 1, 000 per day.

Have you got a source for that Pavlova?

[Jrobhatch29]

Does it not mean thats how many are currently in hospital? Not taking into account previously discharged. We are only really testing hospital cases so that would mean 75% of the people tested werent in hospital.