Are you going to send your kids back in when they reopen?

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Wondering if people will send them back.
As they think only 4-10% of population might have had it. And this peak was only 4w of school.
Im not shielding but isolating as much as possible because im
asthmatic.

I hope they say attendance isnt mandatory so people who need to/want to or are still WFH can keep them home if needed.

Allout - but how do you know your partners job will survive this? At a guess 25% of ALL jobs will go. At the very least there will be pay freezes or cuts - and there won’t be new jobs to move to. I don’t think anyone will not be affected by this private or public sector. Unless you own a supermarket of course!

EHCP (and access to education etc) goes up to 25. I have one DS who is 19 who does not/not able to live independently and receives high rate PIP. I also have a 14 year old DS who is also autistic but has a very different profile.

Apologies if you assumed I was referring to young DC with an EHCP.

I never claimed that autism barred entry to critical care but it is the case that a 19 year old like my DS who has barely left the house for the past 4-5 years and only then accompanied by parents or mental health worker, would be assessed as to appropriateness of even being taken to hospital as this would result in extreme stress and make it very difficult to deliver medical treatment. He is vulnerable and selectively mute and unable to advocate for himself and his own best interests.

Any Answers on R4 the other week had a call from a nurse who said that patients chose palliative care where they can still speak to family on the phone or Skype over ICU where this is not possible even if this reduces survival rate.

If Social structure breaks down, it will be the fittest survive and people saying that won’t happen, look around you it’s already started, if we’re still in Lockdown in 6 months time, life is going to be very different.

Social structure will not break down. Total scare mongering.
Instead of the wide spread looting and riots some were predicting 3 weeks ago, crime has went down.

Allout - but how do you know your partners job will survive this?

Exactly this. I’m currently a SAHM, have been for a while bar some low paid freelance work. DH is a high earner, still working (from home). To assume his job will still be safe in 6/12/18 months if this current situation goes on long term would be foolish.
I think some people have very little idea of how the economy works.

@Newgirls I think DPs job will be okay. But if not we are fucked and on benefits. My wage is very low anyway and without DPs we would be relying on benefits anyway.

There will be no benefits if people aren’t working. Who will pay for them?

@HoffiCoffi13 I know exactly how the economy works. My DP earns 30k a year, decent wage, but not a high earner. His job will not disappear. Worst case scenario is they will get rid of some people.
Some sectors will be relatively okay, it is leisure/discretionary spend that suffers in a recession.

Apologies if you assumed I was referring to young DC with an EHCP.

You are apologising for my assumption

I didn't know the EHCP is for up to age 25. You don't need to apologise on my behalf.

@HoffiCoffi13 Of course there will be benefits. There were benefits in the 80s during a massive recession. You think people will be left to starve? Now you are scare mongering.

I thought my husbands job would be pretty safe but he says their business has fallen by 50%. My industry massively impacted. I honestly don’t know anyone affected other than supermarket workers and some council essential workers - and yes I do think they earn every penny.

Benefits will take time to be processed - already they can’t cope with the deluge in claims. Furlough is taking 3 months at the moment

The 80s recession was far far less dramatic than this.

As we can see with lock down, there are a certain amount of people who will always be in work just to keep people fed and life turning. So people need food, utilities, clothing, education, banking, healthcare, law and order, transportation, social care, etc. These things always continue in a recession even if there are cuts in the sectors.
There will be less restaurants, pubs, shops for discretionary spend, house building, consultancy services to companies, and all those jobs that support these services such as marketing and pr.

There was very large unemployment rates in the 80s. It is tough for those affected. Life goes on, society does not collapse.

@Krisskrosskiss I think what people are trying to say we are going to have to send the kids back at some point. All children would be effected if only half the class are going in due to what ever reasons as the kids do know that the routine has drastically changed. It wouldn’t be fair on the kids to send them back at all different points. If you look at the positive in this situation they are some children attending schools at the minute & so far they seem ok most of them. If you have a medical condition or the child well you would have to read up on the guide lines at the time. For the majority though I do agree we need to think long term about the economy I think this is why Borris didn’t shut the borders in the first place (not that I agree). Some of us are the sole provider and have no choice and are sending are kids to school currently. I work an a key worker and I’ve had to send my child to a new school. When I dropped him at play scheme he looked lost as all the other children weren’t there as usual.

allout you are naive.

@Newgirls The 80s recession was very geographically concentrated. For some places in the south for example, it had very little impact. For some areas it was bloody devastating. I lived in one of the places it devastated. Only essential businesses remained. Getting a job was very very tough.
Life carried on.

@alloutoffucks it’s not scaremongering, if people can’t feed their families they will do desperate things, this is already happening, just because you’re ok, there are a lot of people who are not already, 6 months time will be even worse, you seem to think you will be ok, you won’t be if everyone else can’t afford to live.

If only we were heading for a recession..........

@alloutoffucks this is very different to the 80’s I also lived though that and the 70’s, blackouts, rubbish not picked up for weeks but this is very different

@marchout I assume anyone who is vulnerable is not at work, so not sending their kids in. A lot of parents are medically vulnerable including me. My kids are not going back until there is a low chance of them catching it. They need a mother more than they need to socialise with their friends.

The 80s recession was very geographically concentrated

And this one likely won’t be. Everyone will be impacted. So it’s incomparable.

Allout sorry but many of the industries you think will be ok are falling - clothes for example is down 90%. We don’t need new clothes other than basics and kids clothes and with less money coming in we won’t spend it on new outfits. Even banking has fallen with fewer payments, no need to buy travel insurance, volatile markets, less cash in circulation etc

Law jobs are falling with fewer property transactions, fewer business deals, less immigration etc so less business.

Only food sales and social media eg zoom is in growth!

@gin96 Have you missed that I said the 80s recession was very geographically focused? Some places you could have lived and barely noticed it. Where I lived only essential businesses were still in business. Life went on. There were no riots.

So those who say their kids are not going back until there is a vaccine, you know there might Niro actually ever be one. There is no guarantee and even if there is, it's at least 18 months away.