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Are you going to send your kids back in when they reopen?

702 replies

Keepdistance · 12/04/2020 13:46

Wondering if people will send them back.
As they think only 4-10% of population might have had it. And this peak was only 4w of school.
Im not shielding but isolating as much as possible because im
asthmatic.

I hope they say attendance isnt mandatory so people who need to/want to or are still WFH can keep them home if needed.

OP posts:
perniciousdot · 13/04/2020 11:20

nice benefit bashing .

It wasn't intended to be. The question was asked regarding who can sit about for 2 years. The answer is people who are unaffected financially. So either those on benefits who have the same income as before, or of course the very rich people who don't need to work - a pp already mentioned that category of people.

Krisskrosskiss · 13/04/2020 11:22

Erm... lovely benefit bashing there... and 'who are these mumsnetters who can sit at home for 2 years?' Some people have a stay at home parent in the family. And no ots not only the wealthy or the people on benefits... my husband is a hurse and ima SAHM because that's how we decided to arrange things... and no it hasnt always been financially easy but that's how weve done it... we arent on any benefits. Please dont behave superior to anyone else in this situation... weve all got our own difficulties with it... for some people it is 'easier' than others to have the kids off school... but that doesn't make it totally easy... it's still very hard to absorb the energy day in day out of school aged children... especially when ur husband does 12 hour days... and I'm sure it must be even harder for single parents... dont act like being able to stay home is always some kind of luxury... we had to organise ourselves like this so my husband could do better in his career.. it made sense because I earnt so much less... its have been more expensive for the family for me to try and work ( I have a baby as well as a school aged child)... and I know lots of people in the same boat as us...

alloutoffucks · 13/04/2020 11:23

Or people who are willing to take a financial hit to keep their family safe.

alloutoffucks · 13/04/2020 11:25

I know there are people who need two salaries, but a lot of people who say that could manage on one salary. We can pay the bills and feed us on one salary. No frills at all though.

perniciousdot · 13/04/2020 11:26

Erm... lovely benefit bashing there...

Like I said, it wasn't intended to be.

Please dont behave superior to anyone else in this situation..

Superior? I'm in that category myself Confused

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 13/04/2020 11:26

my husband is a hurse and ima SAHM because that's how we decided to arrange things

Thats great and I dont agree with benefit bashing or anything.

Personally, I'm referring to people who are bashing those who are going back to work or want to go back to work and who are saying they "dont care" about peoples lives because they want to go back to work and would sen their kids back to school.

Thats silly. Most people I know dont have a choice about going back to work- they HAVE to work so they dont lose their home and so they can afford food. Its not about them being selfish and not caring about teachers lives. They have to work to live. Thats not remotely "selfish".

perniciousdot · 13/04/2020 11:27

I
dont act like being able to stay home is always some kind of luxury.

Also, I didn't say staying at home was a luxury, I said people who's income is unaffected have the luxury of choice

I said that because I know that other pile have lost income and don't have that choice.

Choice is the luxury, not staying at home.

Gin96 · 13/04/2020 11:31

There won’t be any benefits if people don’t go back to work, companies are going to go bankrupt, so you maybe ok now but will you be in 2 years time, if your husband looses his job and that £30k a year isn’t coming in, what happens then? I have a friend who can’t get any financial help at the moment, food banks are stretched, I buy her a bit of shopping each week to help her out. She will not be furloughed and is entitled to nothing, she’s trying sort out UC, she’s taken a mortgage holiday but has no money coming in, that could be any of us in 6 months time.

HoffiCoffi13 · 13/04/2020 11:33

There won’t be any benefits if people don’t go back to work

Well exactly. Benefits are paid for by taxes. If people don’t work, no one is paying taxes.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 13/04/2020 11:36

@gin96

Exactly- its all connected. If businesses close and arent paying tax where the hell does benefit money and pension money come from???

Let alone the money for the NHS if incomes stop and fewer people are paying national insurance or income tax.

The idea that people who want to work are being "selfish" is a ridiculous oxymoron when you take that into account. If everyone stayed at home there would be literally no money at all to support anyone. Then, millions would die- FAR more than ever would from corona.

Krisskrosskiss · 13/04/2020 11:38

Yes some people do have to go back to work.. bit equally some people were already stay at home parents for whatever reason... so it's not actually going to effect the economy if their school age children arent going back to school is it? And it might make the schools a bit safer if people who can keep their kids off do so... as there will be more space to socially distance... so I think a staggered return to schools... key worker kids are there now... then when some businesses e open some more kids will need to go back... then eventually all teh children will need to go back... personally because i am a SAHP i think its probably my duty to keep my child out of school until the virus has well and truly died down or theres a vaccine... just because i can do and it might make things safer... yes it's sad for my son but i dont think we will be in total lockdown for that entire time so i think the return to normal life will be gradual...so i dont think it will be as difficult as it is now for two while years!

Random18 · 13/04/2020 11:48

It's not your duty, its your choice.

I have been called selfish on this other threads because I work from home yet will chose to send my kids to school.

Erm 1/ I need to work 2/ even when wfh i don't think my employer would be happy with me homeschooling as well. 3/ the kids deserve a better education than I can give them.

SabrinaTheTeenageBitch · 13/04/2020 11:48

My eldest is autistic and we are having daily meltdowns, she's incredibly unhappy. But she also has cerebral palsy which makes her vulnerable. Keeping her locked away for a year plus would be a very poor quality of life for her and I think eventually I will have to make the choice that most of us will be forced to make which is taking our chances and hoping for the best. Its one of the most mentally damaging situations I've ever been in as a parent

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 13/04/2020 11:50

@SabrinaTheTeenageBitch

I'm really sorry this is so hard for you and your daughter.

Its such a shit situation all round

SabrinaTheTeenageBitch · 13/04/2020 11:55

@AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter

Thank you Thanks

We have been locked away for three weeks now and my DH is working from home but eventually everyone will have to go back to normal won't they. Its that inevitably that scares me the most. I don't see how this all ends without most of us being forced into a situation where we have to take our chances against it whether we want to or not. It still all feels a bit surreal sometimes

Tonyaster · 13/04/2020 11:59

There won’t be any benefits if people don’t go back to work

This.

KOKOagainandagain · 13/04/2020 12:00

@perniciousdot

All adults over 65 are assessed for frailty in considering the 'appropriateness' of critical care. Hence the concern that difficult choices may lead to an age cut-off if ICU is overwhelmed.

Appropriateness is also considered UNDER 65 for long term disabilities including autism.

www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng159/resources/critical-care-admission-algorithm-pdf-8708948893

perniciousdot · 13/04/2020 12:18

I think it's a bit of a stretch to take from that autistic children won't be taken into icu.

SabrinaTheTeenageBitch · 13/04/2020 12:29

Its based on adults surely?

perniciousdot · 13/04/2020 12:40

Yes, it does look to be. It certainly doesn't correlate with that poster saying their D.C. would not get into ICU or needed because they have an ECHP

SabrinaTheTeenageBitch · 13/04/2020 12:46

Well I would be terrified if so as my daughter is both autistic and physically disabled. She attends a special needs school for autistic children and they closed alongside the mainstream ones. Im anticipating them re-opening at the same time so if there are guidelines for treatment of children with life long disabilities then I bloody well want some clarification on it first! What a mess

perniciousdot · 13/04/2020 12:47

Me too. I have 2 autistic children. The idea that they wouldn't get medical treatment horrified me, I have yet to see anything that actually clarified that though.

Kez0777 · 13/04/2020 12:50

@Krisskrosskiss

This makes so much sense

Smilethoyourheartisbreaking · 13/04/2020 12:54

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bluetongue · 13/04/2020 13:06

I think it’s best to send children back unless they are vulnerable or there is a vulnerable person in the house Yes, there have been a very small number of children get very sick or die but on the whole they don’t seem to get as sick as most adults.

I grew up with an anxious and overprotective mother. As much as she meant well and I love her it has had a lasting impact on me as an adult.

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