Absolutely no chance that schools will back properly full time this year.

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Can’t see it, not without a vaccine or a cure.

There’s no exit strategy for lockdown. Not a criticism of anyone in particular, but I think it’s unlikely that normal school will resume within 12 months.

Why didn't you post on one of the other threads,about this?You obviously have no idea when schools will open so why say anything?

This worries me. I have a shielded child due to start reception in September - what will happen to him?

"The report saying schools did not affect transmission was flawed"

My mistake, although I thought it was mortality rate? I can't find the article though, and tbh it's far too soon for any reliable conclusions on this

Who is staffing that? I'm not teaching from 8-5! And then starting my preparation etc.
Let's say I had 15 teenagers per class instead of 30. There still isn't space for 2m between them, and the corridors aren't even 2m wide. We are open for key workers children and it is something like 7 in a class with one teacher.

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This worries me. I have a shielded child due to start reception in September - what will happen to him?"

Impossible to know for sure at this point. When is his birthday though? Schooling isn't compulsory until 5th birthday (or term after? Can't remember exactly)

It’s a massive worry to vulnerable people like myself. I can’t sleep with worry, it’s being discussed in the papers, so why can’t we have an opinion on the matter?

If you don’t like the subject don’t engage.

My point about year 10 and yr 12, they are the year group with most to lose.

Also with the way secondary education is taught compared to primary you will be able to run smaller class sizes if you only had 2 year groups present. You could have desks more than 2m apart. For example a timetabled lesson of English can be taught by more than one English teacher in different classrooms, or say done do maths while others do English.

I agree that they will probably eventually be reopened with staggered timings/entry etc, but it will still be nigh-on impossible to maintain social distancing. We have key worker children in at the moment and even with 10-12 of them in a classroom, they just gravitate towards each other (we have ages from 4-11). Key worker children would have to be in full-time, and will have to include the children of teachers if we are going to be back in the classroom full-time.

SomeHalfHumanCreatureThing..'the childcare aspect'. since when did I become a childminder? [I'm a teacher] If you are concerned about your child's education, perfectly right, and I'll be in every day to help the child to flourish, but risk my and my family's health to provide general childcare [other than for key workers], not likely.

maybe pubs will open again but close at 10pm, that kind of thing.

Does the virus get transmitted more after 10pm then ?

There likely is an exit strategy, or at least the bare bones of one, our government will be watching other countries who get there first closely also. But at the moment we aren't at that point so there is no point communicating that, because, firstly we don't know when it will be implemented, it will depend when our peak is. And secondly it has the potential to confuse people with regard to the current advice, or cause people to second guess and relax with social distancing

My point about year 10 and yr 12, they are the year group with most to lose

I'd rather see their education suffer a bit instead of their health suffer a lot. Education can be caught up on.

FFS we have to take this one day at a time and not speculate - it's not helpful or productive.

Also take a close look at what the European countries who went into lockdown before us are doing and follow from that. It's the only reasonable measure we have right now

To be honest I think many of us will continue trying to stay 2m from strangers for the rest of our lives

God I hope so. I haven't missed space invaders in shop queues - every cloud has a sliver lining and maybe this will be a thing of the past!

SomeHalfHumanCreatureThing..'the childcare aspect'. since when did I become a childminder?

Nobody is saying that teachers are childminders, but schools are open, during the Easter holidays, to assist with childcare for key workers. This is for childcare purposes. School is not childcare, in normal times. These are not normal times.

By 'childcare element' I mean that if any school years go back, it may well be the ones that enable parents to go back to work, first. A 15yo will be fine at home. But no primary-aged child can stay at home alone while a parent goes to work.

"There likely is an exit strategy, or at least the bare bones of one, our government will be watching other countries who get there first closely also"

There will be several exit strategies, on various scenarios. It's just not possible to pick one at this time

To be honest I think many of us will continue trying to stay 2m from strangers for the rest of our lives

And hopefully more people will WASH their fucking HANDS

There will be several exit strategies, on various scenarios. It's just not possible to pick one at this time

@SomeHalfHumanCreatureThing I agree! I think this was maybe what I was trying to say, I think you worded it better! When we need one, an appropriate one will be there

Heh, thanks.

We just don't have the relevant data yet. It just doesn't exist. Kier Starmer needs to stfu about this, and start being proactive in pushing shit that'll actually be helpful. I had such high hopes.

We all need to settle in, and wait. I think if people were aware of the gigantic effort that is going on behind the scenes. It's astonishing how fast things are moving.

No one knows when schools will be back 'properly' or what that properly will look like. The shielded groups won't complete their 12 weeks of shielding until at least the middle of June so unless research indicates that a significant number of them can finish shielding sooner, it's unlikely that primary schools in particular would have enough staff to reopen in full.

I hope that if it's safe to reopen before the end of the school year, Y10 and Y12 start back first. And that the current Y6s move up to their secondary schools early so they have a prolonged transition period getting to know their secondary school whilst it's less hectic. Although it's sad they're missing out on all the end of primary rituals, if they return to their primary schools there will be lots of hugging, sobbing, shirt-signing etc and no pretence of any physical distancing. They're unlikely to want to hug any of the Y10s at their secondary schools.

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Yeah. All of that. Great post.

Maybe it would be best to see what happens in countries who are beginning to lift restrictions and learn from them? Like we should have a few months ago. We don't have to guess, we will be able to see what actually happens.

I also agree that Keir Starmer needs to stop pushing for an exit plan. This just pushes the government into potentially making rash decisions.

"Maybe it would be best to see what happens in countries who are beginning to lift restrictions and learn from them? Like we should have a few months ago. We don't have to guess, we will be able to see what actually happensc

This is literally the plan.

I'm so fucked off with Starmer. Ffs. FFS.

I mean, I'm left of Labour, but shit. This standard bullshit Labour approach in an attempt to get the Tories to "do something".

Stop trying to score points.

I’m a teacher in the vulnerable but nit shielding category and my husband is vulnerable too. I’ve read about three teachers that have died in the last 48 hours. Kids might be less vulnerable but the adults around them most certainly are not. Plus I teach year 1. Believe me - trying to implement social distancing with 30 5-6 year olds squeezed into a classroom that is poorly cleaned due to budget cuts really does not seem safe right now. Yes, open schools when it is safe to do so but we should not be pressured into putting the economy before people’s lives.