Any other people think the clapping is stupid and pointless

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Myself and partner think it’s a load of crap and don’t participate. For clarity we are both healthcare professionals. We would prefer the NHS to be funded properly and the public use it appropriately. Rather than this hypocrisy and “support”

Here it is. What I mention in my post about Wuhan. This was in January. There are a few of them on YouTube

If I clapped I’d be breaking the social distancing rules as my next door neighbours door is less than 10 inches away from mine!

Another one
I remember finding them quite moving at the time
Wuhan again

My sister is a nurse working with covid 19 patients. She is a sibgle parent and her 8 ear old child worries mummy will die, this ma happen. The clap makes the child less anxious and proud. It brings people in the neighbourhood together whilst they stay apart. It's for more than the nhs, it's for tge lobey, scared, anyone who has to take a risk with work, it's for a hoped for future and people to take hope. Love ut or loathe it, some take meaning and for them it can help.
Week 1 silence in our village , week 2 1 slightly mad couple with drums🙄🤯 week 3, lots of elderly neighbours.

@Flaxmeadow can’t remember the day / time last week for the “clap for children”. I think it’s nonsense so gave it no thought

The only thing that gripes me is that we stole the idea from Italy. It came out of a desperate hopeless situation. Its nice and meaningless at the same time here. We turned into a televised event FFS.

Watch out Cambridgeshire police are tweeting this morning that they are policing 'the non-essential' aisles of Tesco for... well not offenders because its not illegal to buy any particular items...

Seriously power has gone to the heads of some police forces. What the fuck is essential anyway?

Are they going to raid click and collect B and Q for anyone buying a bag of compost? Compost might be essential if you are trying to grow you own food.

Wrong thread

It's meaningful to some, but I agree that's it's mostly about community spirit and togetherness. Which is lovely!

However, I mostly show my support for the NHS by not voting tory.

@cheesyhouseplants - I saw a video back in February of residents on lockdown in Wuhan howling together. It was really disconcerting but lots of comments explained that the same phenomenon happened on American university campuses during finals week and it was simply a shared animalistic response/release to stressful conditions. It helps people’s morale.

I think it’s fine if people don’t like it (Facebook shaming pisses me off), but I also think it’s very mean spirited for HCP’s to piss all over everyone’s chips. There’s many reasons it’s ‘a good thing’ and it hurts no one. If you don’t wish to take it in the spirit it’s intended that’s fine but why try and make people feel bad? Do you receive thank you cards from former patients and write back with a political letter?

The two minute silence on Armistice day achieves precisely fuck all practically but it’s an important moment for lots of people who ensure that they take part in it. I don’t see posts pouring scorn all over that - what’s the differnce?

Oh and I work in the NHS if that makes any difference.

Our lead "clappers" (and fireworks, bells, car horns) are the ones I see flouting the rules all bloody week with visitors, chatting in the street, car washing with their mates and the like.

Meanwhile our family are having an awful time with it and sticking to the rules - it feels like a giant "fuck you" with the crapping.

If it makes you feel better then do it
If it doesn't then don't
Personally I would rather people donate even a little to the NHS or do something positive to help the workers
Clap all you want but its not going to help anyone really

I hate it, and I work in a clinical patient facing role in the NHS. The first week it woke me up because I was in bed asleep after a series of stupidly long days.
I appreciate everyone has a right to clap if it makes them feel better but it makes me feel worse. I am already waking up in the night with anxiety about my job. When I come home I try to relax and spend time with my family I find the clapping just serves to remind me how crap my job currently is and makes me anxious again id rather just be left alone to get on with my job as best I can. Also doesnt help that I am surrounded by Tory voters, all out clapping and banging pans and honking horns. Never mind that my job has been crap for years due to staff shortages and chronic underfunding....hey ho
And then today in Aldi when I used my NHS badge to get priority entry (as is their policy) some bloke in the queue started having a go at me. Now actually, for me being able to fit in my shopping without having abuse hurled at me whilst continuing my stupidly stresful job - that would be a better sign of appreciation than standing on your drive banging a pan.

I'm a nurse and I really hate the new national clapping obsession..

The smug managers love it as it makes them feel god for sending us into patients with sub adequete Ppe and no psychological support. They are forever sharing social media drivel and feel good bollocks propoganda.

My manager has ignored me all week.

I'm not a hero and never want to be though of as one. I will do my job however and care for patients despite my employers and the government putting me and my colleagues and my family at risk.

Personally I would rather people donate even a little to the NHS or do something positive to help the workers

The hospital I work at is swamped with deliveries from an Amazon wish list that was set up for staff to add to. It’s really kind and loads of stuff that’s useful for staff and patients.

Wow people moaning about a clap & rainbows ,if thats all people had to moan about just now

No clapping here. If people cared that much they wouldn't have voted Tory last election.

Hypocrites all.

I will do my job however and care for patients despite my employers and the government putting me and my colleagues and my family at risk

And this is the sentiment behind most people’s participation. By and large people know the politics that exist in the NHS at the best of times, yet here you are, still doing what’s needed despite that. You swallow the hypocrisy, incompetence and fear to keep doing the work that is actually needed.

Your average person can’t do much (voting aside) but anyone can clap and express thanks.

I agree it’s been hijacked by certain greasy pole climbers and media but why let that completely destroy the spirit that’s intended from most people?

Wow people moaning about a clap & rainbows ,if thats all people had to moan about just now

Actually I think it's a big deal because it stops people being honest with their feelings because everyone is happy clappy and that makes it socially more difficult for anyone struggling to vocalise this. That has mental health implications for those most at risk.

Hypocrites all

So clapping is a Tory voting thing ?

Gotcha

Actually I think it's a big deal because it stops people being honest with their feelings

Fair point

Utterly agree, though it's not a popular opinion in real life. It's smug and pointless. All these clappers are often the ones who vote Tory anyway.
Nhs workers in my opinion should not have to be heroes or angels, they should be professionals who are well paid for doing a difficult job. Reward people with proper wages, not mawkish hang clapping ffs.

Everyone who works for the NHS wants there to be better funding we all know it’s falling apart (and that it needs radical change)

It brings for many a sense of community and people want to show their appreciation for all key workers - I think the sense of community is really really important at the moment

I’m not fussed either way I clap for those on the front line, paramedics (often overlooked) and keyworkers I don’t feel it’s really for me but that it makes many feel good I like and like ds to be involved