What happens if someone travels unnecessarily

[Randomword6]

My dd, 20 wants desperately to live elsewhere for the duration. I am not sure if she could get where she wants to go by train atm, it's 400 miles away. And I don't know if she would get stopped and questioned.

Why does she want to move? Seems like something about living as part of your household is unbearable if she desperately wants to leave. I’m assuming that she has moved out before?

Please tell us you've missed some crucial bit of information from your post, even the dimmest bobby must be able to identify one end of the train from another.

< drums fingers, waiting for clarification about train driver / dim bobby > 👀

Assuming train driver was on said train to get to his station of departure...not actually driving it

No OP, the rules also apply to your DD. She has to stay put where she is. Tell her to grow the fuck up

It goes without saying that her age group are in a different information bubble and not taking the situation seriously.

To be honest, from what I know about her age group, it is the small minority, including your DD who are not taking it seriously - the vast majority of that age group are being ultra sensible where I am.

It goes without saying that her age group are in a different information bubble and not taking the situation seriously
Does it go without saying? Because all the 20 somethings I know are staying at home, aren’t socialising, aren’t travelling.
Don’t blame her age, she’s not a child. Blame the fact she’s aware of the guidelines but is still aiming to do what she wants

My friend got stopped by British Transport Police on a train the other day. He had a legitimate reason for travelling but another passenger sitting near him didn’t and apparently got a right telling off.

"What happens if someone travels unnecessarily" worst case they contract the virus.

No, worst case is they are already infected and spread to other people.

Legally, the police now have the power to force someone to return home. As well as imposing fines or arresting people. It is unlawful to leave your home without reasonable excuse. Presumably she wants to move to live with a family member, friend, or love interest. With no legal requirement to move and no violence or abuse situation, this is unlikely to be considered reasonable.

Ethically, it's against all the guidelines that are in place to slow the spread of a virus that is killing people.

I think it’s really hard for young people tbh

Of course, because it’s hard for everyone. They still need to stick to the rules. There are young ones round here that usually have BFs/GFs coming and going but there has been no sign of any to-ing and fro-ing, they just have to get on with it I guess

shine I wanted a more exotic explanation than the obvious
< sulks >

The simple answer is no, she should not travel. I suppose you can't stop her (how will she pay for it - does she have money)? But she can't come back if she does leave.

British Transport Police have been very proactive around here. Station staff have likewise been refusing people travel.

If she is moving house then that is allowed. The legislation says so.

Not if she’s moving house unnecessarily.

Starting to suspect theres a good reasons she wants to go.

Since op is being evasive about saying what it is.

Q: why are you on this train? A: I'm driving it... Q: yes, but do you really need to be on this train? 🤣

I'm pretty sure the train driver would be travelling as a passenger on a train to get from home to whatever station they are starting work from...

On a serious note as a keyworker I've been issued an official letter from work that I keep in the car to produce if I need it. Not that's its come to that yet, but I'd still not want to attempt to travel somewhere far outside the location I really need to - unless I really did need to.

Stay at home, save our NHS, save lives.

It’s that fucking simple.

This is completely unnecessary travel.

@LastTrainEast worst case she contracts the virus.

No, worst case is she passes the virus unwittingly to other people, who then go on to infect other people and so on. Some of them die. They all take a heavy toll on health service provision and endanger NHS staff. She takes the virus to where she is going.

I am way past caring what happens to the selfish sods themselves.

Tell her the reason Spain and Italy have such awful death rates is because people travelled around and spread the disease like wild fire.

@Randomword6 is your dd normally this selfish?
Why does she think she’s above the rules?
What reasons does she perceive are vital?
Where does she want to go?

I’d be embarrassed of any member of my family doing this unless the reason was valid eg DV or specific health appointment.

Her grandparents’ generation were made to go to war as young people. She is being asked to sit on a fucking sofa.

As a presumably fit young person she should be asking what she can do to help in this crisis, not actively going out of her way to make it worse.

Tell her she needs to stay put and save lives. Possibly including her own.

Yes they can stop you, my DH is a key worker and part of his role at the moment involves driving fairly long distances, he has been stopped and had to show ID to back up what he said to them. It isn't worth it.