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Confused by advice - ‘stay indoors’?

72 replies

Tellmetruth4 · 04/04/2020 12:56

Just tidying up kitchen with Sky News in background and hear presenter say after the weather forecast that ‘although the weather will be nice this weekend, the government advice is to ‘stay indoors’.

Surely this is not want the government mean by ‘stay home’? They mean ‘stay in your property’ which would include the garden if you have one? Or is it me that’s got it wrong?

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Xenia · 04/04/2020 15:24

The state wants people to exercise every day - it is just as important as keeping away from other people's germs. I was in the garden - a very big distance from neighbours and that is clearly what the state wants. It doesn't want people getting rickets from lack of sunlight. www.theglasgowstory.com/image/?inum=TGSG00038

vanillandhoney · 04/04/2020 15:25

Just because something is ‘permitted’ it doesn’t mean you have to do it or that it’s a good idea

Staying home and not exercising and getting fresh air for weeks on end is awful for your general health - both physical and mental. Everyone should be going out daily to get fresh air. As long as you maintain social distancing, you'll be fine.

Nonnymum · 04/04/2020 15:25

Cissyandflora
You can taks your children for a walk as long as you keep at least 2 metres away from eveyone else and they don't meet up with anyone else also playgrounds etc all closed.

cologne4711 · 04/04/2020 15:27

You can catch it in your garden, it can be carried in the air

Utter rubbish. Why do people keep peddling this nonsense?

Go and do the Futurelearn course on Covid 19, it's free and you will be a lot better informed.

cologne4711 · 04/04/2020 15:29

Just because something is ‘permitted’ it doesn’t mean you have to do it or that it’s a good idea

Well that's my attitude to 16 year olds having sex, but most MNers don't seem to agree with me (not that that's exactly an issue at the moment).

But I can't see any risks of sitting /playing/working in your garden unless some tosser starts a bonfire.

wowfudge · 04/04/2020 15:35

With the reduction in traffic, I fail to see how a barbecue would be a problem given that pollution levels from traffic will have dropped.

ilovecakeandwine · 04/04/2020 15:54

You live somewhere quiet then.
Why is that so hard to believe? I've been for a run a few times at 9am ish it's so quiet no one about , I suppose most people having a lie in . I've took my dc out after lunch and a lot of dog walkers etc so I try and pick a quieter time .

panicstationsready · 04/04/2020 15:59

After seeing a few people running marathons in their back gardens (and they were small back gardens too) why would anyone NEED to go out for exercise - obvs there are a huge number of people who live in flats etc with no gardens, but other than that just run around the garden.

TeacupDrama · 04/04/2020 16:07

even shielded people are encouraged into their gardens if they have one ( or in doorway or by open windows f they don't) for fresh air and sunlight it specifically says this in government guidelines
for general health it is really important that people do not actually stay in doors all the time with windows and doors locked shut
Thing with common sense is that it is not common, some take advantage and stretch rules to the limit; others say milk is not an essential drink your tea black
Boris said once a day for exercise such as run, walk cycle as examples not that these are the only permitted activites but team games like football and tennis are definitely out
Michael Gove suggested that an hour's walk or 30 minutes run was reasonable, neither are the law but common sense
it is common sense that no exercise or fresh air or sunlight at all for 12 weeks is very bad for you, it is equally common sense that a 75 mile 5 hour cycle ride is much riskier that 45 minutes, for two reasons firstly you are out for longer so more risk of exposure, secondly if everyone is out for one hour between 8am -8pm only 8% of population out at once however if everyone is out for 3 hours that is 25% out at once so social distancing harder and more people around more risk of exposure and infecting the next person with many more contacts
there is no such thing as no risk any day of our lives; every car journey every flight of stairs is a risk albeit tiny
Viral load matters; the closer you are to source of virus plus the time in it's presence the greater the risk, breathing in virus from several patients per day while treating them very high risk, crowded tube with mostly healthy people but very close contact high risk, standing at 1 metre instead of 2 metres in supermarket queue for 10 minutes less risk but still a moderate risk, briefly using same door handles as everyone else a lower risk, brief encounter for 2-3 seconds as someone goes past you on street in opposite direction very low risk, someone sneezing in their garden 4 metres away separated by hedge almost no risk at all

OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/04/2020 17:35

For those worried about it being in the air in your garden, that air will make it into your house.

Haffiana · 04/04/2020 17:36

Exercise helps boost immunity. You need to exercise so that you have the best possible chance to fight the virus when your turn comes to catch it.

Exercise will help save lives.

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 17:36

For those worried about it being in the air in your garden, that air will make it into your house

Yes, I sometimes wonder where people think the air in their house comes from Grin

Haffiana · 04/04/2020 17:38

Yes, I sometimes wonder where people think the air in their house comes from

There is no air in my house. I am safe! Grin

MorganKitten · 04/04/2020 17:52

I went on my normal walk and so many people are out. From drinking and having picnics along the river to groups of families cycling. I cut m walk short and went home!

ilovecakeandwine · 04/04/2020 17:58

Picnics no groups of families cycling is fine .

MorganKitten · 04/04/2020 18:00

Not when they are cycling on the pavement and not moving. Or in clearly mixed family groups when there’s 10 people.

Ethelfleda · 04/04/2020 18:26

I live close to a relatively empty nature reserve. I’ve been getting a daily walk in there but even today, there were people about who haven’t got a clue how big 2m is. I was practically walking in the hedge at one point while a couple of grinning idiots walked past me, side by side Angry

tiggerkid · 04/04/2020 18:28

They didn't mean stay indoors. Nobody is stopping anyone from spending time in their gardens.

BogRollBOGOF · 04/04/2020 18:45

Sunlight and fresh air are important to mental and physical good health. Covid 19 is not the only health hazard in the world.

We need to space out appropriately to avoid unnecessary spreading of the virus hence discouraging people turning up to beauty spots en-masse. Also if roads are congested and obstructed by traffic and an excess of parked vehicles, that compromises emergency responses. You also don't want to risk incidents in inaccessible areas necessitating a bigger recovery operation including agencies like mountain rescue (and supporting emergency services)

So go out to quieter places/ at quieter times and keep your distance, but don't stay indoors all day everyday (unless at accute risk from existing conditions).

At least from using our gardens, I know our shielding elderly neighbours are currently alive and well (plus in an unmumsnetty way, they enjoy the young life of neighbours children playing Smile)

Mlou32 · 04/04/2020 19:06

It's obvious what they mean isn't it? Stay indoors; obviously there is the one dose of exercise a day and you can sit in your garden, but in general - stay indoors.

Dishwashersaurous · 04/04/2020 19:51

Also use your common sense. Lots and lots of the country is not cheek by jowl. We live in the south east but can easily walk for two or three hours and only see one or two people. Therefore really really easy to stay metres away

TeacupDrama · 04/04/2020 19:56

It just depends where you are the next nearest house to us because we are rural is over 500metres away so obviously our garden is somewhat different to someone living in a row of terraced houses , the next house is not huge just a 2 bed cottage doesn't mean we have a huge house just that housings is spaced out none of us could afford even a 1 bed flat in london for what we would sell for,
stay at home is the message not stay indoors everytime you see the bulletins it is
"stay at home, protect the NHS save lives"

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