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Confused by advice - ‘stay indoors’?

72 replies

Tellmetruth4 · 04/04/2020 12:56

Just tidying up kitchen with Sky News in background and hear presenter say after the weather forecast that ‘although the weather will be nice this weekend, the government advice is to ‘stay indoors’.

Surely this is not want the government mean by ‘stay home’? They mean ‘stay in your property’ which would include the garden if you have one? Or is it me that’s got it wrong?

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vanillandhoney · 04/04/2020 14:11

Of course you are, the longer you are out the more chance you have of another person coming too close to you, or indeed you to them and you may be asymptomatic.

Again, it depends where you live.

I could walk from my doorstep for hours and not see a single soul. If I lived in a city it would be a different story.

Watchagotcha · 04/04/2020 14:11

Here in France it's one hour max, and you have to write the time that you left your home on your attestation, in case the police stop you. Maybe you picked it up from that - there are a fair few French residents posting on MN.

OlaEliza · 04/04/2020 14:27

Here in Spain it's not at all. Only allowed out for food shopping, medical reasons and essential work.

It's common sense to only go out if you need to, and stop trying to push the guidelines. It's common sense that if you have a garden, use that and don't go out. If you are used to a 20 mile a day run, and have a garden, get creative and do something else. It's not rocket science.

AmelieTaylor · 04/04/2020 14:32

@vanilla

You are permitted to leave the house once a day for exercise (that includes children) they can run around & use the green space (but not play equipment or play with other children)!

However, when people cough,sneeze,exhale the virus can stay in the air for up to three hours, so there is a risk of contracting it, even if you don’t see anyone.

When you cough,sneeze or exhale (just talking, breathing) some of the virus will be in the big droplets that fall quickly to the ground (and stay there waiting to be picked up by hosts) and some will be in the very much smaller particles floating around in the air just hanging out for up to 3 hours looking for a host

The greater number of people going outside of their house, the greater the quantity of the corona virus in the air.

The greater the chance of picking it up
The greater the chance of then infecting others
The greater the chance of people needing the NHS
THE GREATER THE CHANCE OF THE NHS being overwhelmed
THE grater the chance of people dying

All because some people can’t stay inside their own bloody homes.

The GOVT have permitted this either hoping that people will be far more sensible/restrained than many are being OR because they’re worried about having to enforce anything stricter

We haven’t ‘locked down’ anywhere near as tightly as other countries and we will regret it ‘lessons will be learnt’ far FAR too bloody late

After ‘many people lose loved ones BEFORE THEIR TIME’

Just because something is ‘permitted’ it doesn’t mean you have to do it or that it’s a good idea

STAY INDOORS MEANS STAY INDOORS

Our Govt needs to make it law & enforce it instead of being so pathetic.

AmelieTaylor · 04/04/2020 14:34

@Worriedmum54321

You can catch it in your garden, it can be carried in the air.

cabbageking · 04/04/2020 14:41

Most of my neighbours have been doing work on their gardens, as we have.

If you can go to the shops and walk and avoid contact then this is the same for the garden.

Clearly if you have a tiny garden you can't sit out in it and keep safe if all the neighbours are also out.

Going to read my book in the garden now with a nice cuppa

Aragog · 04/04/2020 14:44

Why do so many people think there's a one hour time limit?

IIRR Gove mentioned the suggestions in one of the Q&As.
Think he said something along the lines as 'about an hour for a walk, 30 minutes run and cycle somewhere in between."

But it was still only a suggestion.

Haffiana · 04/04/2020 14:46

When you cough,sneeze or exhale (just talking, breathing) some of the virus will be in the big droplets that fall quickly to the ground (and stay there waiting to be picked up by hosts) and some will be in the very much smaller particles floating around in the air just hanging out for up to 3 hours looking for a host

No. IF you mechanically use a nebuliser to form an aerosol with the virus in order to make a very, very fine droplet, THEN it can stay in the air for 3 hours. There is no evidence that if you cough,sneeze or exhale that it will stay in the air for anything like that time.

ilovecakeandwine · 04/04/2020 14:46

Oh for goodness sake @AmelieTaylor calm down , as long as you stay 2 metres away from someone you'll be fine . I went running for 40 minutes and I didn't see a soul.
I don't see what's so pathetic about permitting people to take a walk . Hmm

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 14:51

Just because something is ‘permitted’ it doesn’t mean you have to do it or that it’s a good idea

I think some people are unable to risk assess. We have been for a walk this morning. We saw one other person from the other side of the road (we were at least 6 meters from them). I am happy with that level of risk. If you’re not, then you can stay at home.

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 14:53

I also jet washed the patio this morning. My next door neighbour was around 10 meters away painting his fence. I am also happy with that level of risk. As is he, obviously.

Dontunderestimateme · 04/04/2020 15:06

People also need to consider the risk involved in just staying indoors. Surely we should all be trying to stay as healthy as we can at he moment so if we do get it we can have a better chance of fighting it off without needing hospital treatment. . Lack of exercise, and sunlight, while sitting at home eating too much is not going to help with that.

ellanwood · 04/04/2020 15:09

DC told me of friends from school who have been out on 35km runs! That must take several hours. There's a sensible balance between people doing this and people who refuse to even let their children let off steam on the local rec because they are so scared.

A walk or bike ride with DC in fresh air, avoiding all contact with others is better for you than being cooped up 24/7. Even if you have a garden, I think it's wise to have a change of scenery so long as you stay extremely respectful of the safety guidelines.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/04/2020 15:14

For many people who don't have a garden, balcony, terrace or patio saty home = stay indoors.

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 15:15

Dontunderestimateme yes, two weeks of self isolation followed by a week of lockdown has left me feeling sluggish, lethargic and unhealthy, even though I’ve been using my exercise bike and taking vitamin D supplements throughout. I also have severe back pain. I feel far less able to fight of an infection now than I did 3 weeks ago when I was active outdoors for most of the day.

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 15:15

For many people who don't have a garden, balcony, terrace or patio saty home = stay indoors

Apart from your permitted daily exercise.

Shahlalala · 04/04/2020 15:15

We walk with the children but distance and don’t touch anything.
Parks (with swings etc) are not advisable as the virus lives on metal for a long time.

Onceateacher · 04/04/2020 15:16

You can catch it in your garden, it can be carried in the air
Is this true? Shock If it is, then opening my windows is risking as well?
Kind of makes me think I may as well go out Hmm

Gwenhwyfar · 04/04/2020 15:17

"You can catch it in your garden, it can be carried in the air."

If that's true, you could catch it through an open window too, or through a bathroom fan. I presume that risk is low.

Notcoolmum · 04/04/2020 15:21

amelie. I'd like to see your credential and evidence base for your posts please?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/04/2020 15:22

Being outside has been shown to support the immune system, lowering stress levels supports the immune system, moderate exercise supports the immune system.

As long as people stay 2m apart, and don't meet up with anyone outside of their household and don't touch anything and then outdoor exercise is fine. Sitting in gardens is also fine. Both are the healthier choice if done considerately and safely.

Gwenhwyfar · 04/04/2020 15:22

"We have been for a walk this morning. We saw one other person from the other side of the road"

You live somewhere quiet then.

DullPortraits · 04/04/2020 15:23

You can't catch it in the air- IT IS NOT AIRBORNE!

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 15:24

Yes I do Gwenhwyfar. Many of us don’t live in large towns/cities. What’s why everyone has to risk assess.

HoffiCoffi13 · 04/04/2020 15:24

*That’s