Would you vaccinate yourself against CV

[LaPerla]

Would you be the first to vaccinate yourself/children against CV when the vaccine is available?

Yes. Especially if I/we didn't have antibodies for it. And especially if it turns out that you can catch different strains. I know that flu vaccine can fail, scientistscan get it wrong, blah blah, but if it's even moderately similar to a strain that you do encounter, it does provide some protection.

All this antivaxx paranoia is ridiculous. I don't imagine that people would turn down a vaccine for ebola, or zika, or malaria, if they lived in an affected region. Yes, there could be bad side effects of a vaccine. There could be bad side effects of catching CV as well.

@RU562341 I tried looking for a link for the diabetes and Tamiflu, but all I could find was sites suggesting it aggrivated it in people who already had the condition.

I suppose everybody reacts differently to medication though so it's possible. I know that after having a heavy regime of antivirals to cure ny Hep C, I'm allergic to pretty much everything. The amount of things that make me sneeze all the time are ridiulous

I live in Germany, excellent health service,
so I'd expect antibody testing first, to check if I needed the vaccine

No I didn’t let DC have swine flu one and I won’t be letting them have this one. It’s too rushed. DC aren’t at risk, it’s just a cough and temp, no big deal.

Ugh, BCF. I had "proper flu" once, in my early 20s. Never felt so ill in my life, even glandular fever wasn't as bad. I get the jab every year now.

The person who mentioned the BCG - haven't most of us already had that?

Why do people repeat made up stuff? I've just looked up tamiflu, if you're diabetic you talk to your doctor about your sugars. Absolutely not the same as "making" you diabetic. Having babies makes lots of people diabetic too, yet to hear that that's a pharma conspiracy. Honestly our entire lives are going down the plug hole, we're fucked for 10 years financially, vaccination is the only way out and there are people making shit up about it being risky. As if the alternative shitshow isn't risky.

@ocarinan you mean wacky baccy?

@Oakmaiden I have, but I think they stopped it as a routine vaccination 20 years ago. Now you only get it for travel etc.

BCG isn't routinely given in many areas now and I didn't get it back in the 80's ( not sure why I didn't ).

Those of you are aren't going to have it, are you banking on the rest of us having it to keep you safe?

@RU562341 - I had a "1 in a million" drug reaction nearly 20 years ago, that's left me in chronic pain & frequently partially paralysed. I'm disabled as a direct result of 3 weeks of medication with a very common drug. It's still prescribed, to many people. One bad reaction is just bad luck, TBH.

@OntheWaves40 - the young DD of someone I know currently has CV. From the photos on SM, it doesn't look like "just a cough & a temp".

I just googled it. Yes, they stopped it 15 years ago, so most people aged 25-80 will have had it, but not otherwise.

Apparently it is only considered to be effective for about 15 years, and repeat doses are not considered worthwhile. According to Dr Google, who may or may not know what he is talking about.

Apparently not, it’s not done as a routine vaccine anymore.

Also, I think it wears out, but I might be wrong there.

Yes.

I had smallpox vac as a baby. It left a nice scar so I’m well prepared if they let that one loose agin.
As for Covid-19 vac I will be first in the queue. Work in high risk area ie 6 inches from my patients mouths. I don’t need a dose of Covid every year.

I won’t be relying on herd immunity. It hasn’t stopped other highly infectious Coronavirus such as the common cold.

Yes we will have it.

Yes, of course I'd have it when its available. I'd guess they'll do the antibody test first as presumably it will take a fair while after the vaccine is developed and tested for production to be ramped up, and then they'll prioritise key workers and vulnerable groups and won't want to waste shots on people that don't need it.

Those of you are aren't going to have it, are you banking on the rest of us having it to keep you safe?

No I'll be relying on my own immune system to keep me safe.

And me @Pulpfiction1

Yes

Herd immunity isn't perfect. We still get TB in this country, measles etc. Partly because of immigration from countries where they don't routinely vaccinate, partly because of poor uptake.

Or, we could all refuse the vaccine. And rely on our immune systems. Because that's going really well so far.

@MayTheGodsBeEverInYourFavour sorry to hear about your friend. I guess everyone is going to be different but from what i’ve seen most DC don’t seem to be affected. Other than the usual rosy cheeks and lethargy that they get with a usual cold. But I know some will be worse. I’m just worried the vaccine won’t be safe and the risks from an unknown vaccine outweigh the risk of CV to my DC. My parents on the other hand, that’s a different thing altogether but at 70, the implications of the vaccine having something wrong in 50 years time isn’t a worry.

the question of whether the Chinese fudged their statistics

Of course they did.

The question is to what multiple did the Chinese fudge their figure by?

Like who really believes Grenfell death toll was 79... on a weekday night... during school term time... In a social housing apartment block.

Governments LIE...ALOT