The virus is NOT airborne - WHO

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So the WHO have officially stated that the virus is NOT airborne as has been stated many times :

twitter.com/WHO/status/1243972193169616898

Their recommendation is to keep 1 metre apart , not 2 metres as many countries have been using (including in the UK).

Does this change anything? I guess it may calm the anxiety of picking up the virus when out and about doing exercise if someone gets a bit too close, or in the supermarket.

I caught it from the dentist. The only place I visited in 25 days. I went there in an FFP3 mask and only took it off in the chair.
The dentist was wearing a mask herself and only touched my teeth with tools.
I can only conclude that the previous patient had some drilling done and it created aerosol.
I wore a new mask on the way out and disposed of them correctly. I washed my hands thoroughly and even had a shower straight afterwards.

What about cruise ship infections.... It travelled through the air con system!!!!!

I don't believe it's not airborne. I know I'm not a scientist but the way this has spread makes me question it is

I really did not anticipate anything on this thread to be LOL worthy..

I think the whole point of the 2 metre rule is that, if you find yourselves having to pass without quite enough space, you're still likely to be more than a metre apart.

@dementedpixie Did you check the source of your infographic? It says at the bottom GrayNews. It doesn't sound credible at all.

Something positive at last. Personally I will still be maintaining two metres distance or more though.

I think they've always said it's not airborne, but that the extra distance means that if anyone coughs or sneezes near you, you won't get covered in snotty spray (which will carry it).

Also, I think it's perfectly possible that the govt has said stay 2m apart to ensure that people maintain a distance of at least 1m.

If they said 1m, then lots of people would get closer the the 1 m distance - when you're chatting to someone it's almost impossible to maintain a distance like that - you inadvertently edge closer without realising it.

No, while many of the guests were on lockdown on the Princess ship - the protocols or reducing risk of infection were not adequately followed by non-guests such as staff. An epidemiologist managed to get his way on the ship and found infection control was lacking.

Sorry: "Preliminary investigations conducted by Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCOV) identified in #Wuhan, #China"

The link below goes into more information about the situation on the Diamond Princess ship.

link to article

Thanks dementedpixie that's at least helped me to understand a bit more

@MrsNettle the WHO link I posted does mention the 3 hours thing but it was under laboratory conditions.

In this experimental study, aerosols were generated using a three-jet Collison nebulizer and fed into a Goldberg drum under controlled laboratory conditions. This is a high-powered machine that does not reflect normal human cough conditions. Further, the finding of COVID-19 virus in aerosol particles up to 3 hours does not reflect a clinical setting in which aerosol-generating procedures are performed—that is, this was an experimentally induced aerosol-generating procedure

@CrapTVAddict
I am with you on that.

Also:

Just because they haven't tested how long virus can survive in water, they only talk about touching surfaces.

Virus also lives on fabrics - do u guys disinfect yourself head to toe every time u come into the house?

We see ground being heavily sprayed on tv- why? No one sane would touch that but it's bound to be thick with it.

But the wind will whip up dirt and tiny droplets so whilst virus doesn't have wings, it for sure can be whipped up in the air either from someone who sneezed/coughed or from the ground and 2m/8m almost certainly refers to indoor wind-free theoretical conditions. Even draft would carry particles in the way a sheet of paper flies off the desk by the open window.

www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-covid-19-how-long-does-the-coronavirus-last-on-surfaces this also mentions 3 hours in the air in a study that was done

I know I'm not a scientist but

I'll be listening to you, then, @CrapTVAddict

Especially given the academic credentials suggested by your username.

So if its not airborne but is instead spread by touch, and bearing in mind that 70% of infected people are male, does this mean that men don't wash their hands as much as women?

I am wondering if the reason for more male infections is not complicated biology, effects of hormones or differences in the immune system but the fact that men don't wash their hands.

Let's face it, the reason there isn't a queue for the gents isn't just that they can use a urinal. It's that they don't wash their hands afterwards.

My DH does wash his hands. I can stand and watch loads of blokes come and go from the gents while I wait for him because he is the only one who is washing and drying his hands.

Where does this leave dog owners? Are our dogs walking in the virus then coming into the home with it on their paws and climbing on the furniture?

There was a program recently on channel 4, dont remember the title, but one of the doctors did experiment with cough, how far the droplets from the cough land.
It was clear that people's (on average) cough droplets land as far as 2m, so technically the minimum distance should be 2meters or more.

In the bus image, the infected person appears to be in a seat right beside the door where people get off. It doesn’t need to be airborne. It only needs the infected person to touch the handle on the back of his seat, or the one in front, or the pole that everyone grabs as they’re getting on and off.

So unless they watched the passengers who picked up the infection and are 100% sure they touched nothing, then surely where they were sitting is irrelevant?

Please can people stop tagging me in posts just to have a dig.
Post whatever you want if it makes you feel better to be unkind to someone but stop tagging me in it. Thank you

If it's spread by touch, then that blows a hole in immunity and passing it on.

If people have it on their hands, they then can easily pass it from surface to surface - even if they have had it.

I thought that was established already, if it was to be airborne half of planet would have been dead already

Apologies, I see I misunderstood which person was the person who was contagious. I thought it was the blue person. I shall try to find the article before I say anything else.

Does this change anything? I guess it may calm the anxiety of picking up the virus when out and about

Totally. It means going out for a walk and passing people in the street has zero risk. Unless that person is actively ill and coughs and splutters all over you.

But it's not going to keep the scaremongering "we're all going to die" brigade happy. Because it's a positive piece of news. Obvious response from the doom-mongers is that the WHO are lying.

Fuck me, some people are desperate to believe the worst and are sitting rubbing their hands together at the thought of thousands of deaths. Grim.