Shielding advice is basically bollocks

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Who can stay 2m away from a toddler?

No proper guidance anywhere!

What do you do? Isolate the entire house for three months?

It's bollocks if it's impossible to follow

Try telling a two year old that they can't hug their Dad for three months

We tried the Sainsbury's idea but can't get in contact

The Morrison's thing is swamped

Currently trying local companies but they're swamped too

FFS!

There are loads of local groups of volunteers who will fetch shopping for you - search Facebook for a local group/ Google local support groups.

Also try local independent stores - plenty of them are doing deliveries.

It's bollocks if it's impossible to follow

It's not impossible for everyone. Individual circumstances will be different. But the basis idea isn't bollocks.

Obvs within the 1.5 million of us classed as vulnerable, there are variations in our circumstances.

So, just do your best!

Do you give the volunteers money up front? How does it work? I can't phone the supermarket to order.

Look on Facebook. Many groups are on there. Often with big input from the local town council. You should be able to find someone to do your shopping.

Sorry but we won't be doing that here, if one of us gets symptoms then we'll all isolate as a household but not within the household. We live in a 2 bed flat with no garden, 1 bathroom and a clingy 4 year old. Just won't be possible.

Use online banking or PayPal to pay volunteers

Surely if none of you are going out then hugs are fine. Are you on facebook? There are lots of community groups set up like this to do shopping. Do you have a friend who you could transfer money too, who co d then put the cash through your door in an envelope. That way you can leave cash for whoever is doing your shopping and the y can leave food on your doorstep.

I can't imagine distancing myself physically from the family at the time when everyone needs more support, not less. I want to cook good food so they are healthy, clean to reduce risk, just generally prepare in case they're ill. And spend time together.

If we could get shopping without risk, they would be no need to isolate from the family. The shopping is the sticking point.

We could ask friends, but then they are risking another shop too and I'd feel bad. It would be better if the gov could have given the vulnerable list to the supermarkets, but I'm sure data protection will not allow it.

I am hoping that the hubs will help put pressure on the online supermarkets to give priority access for delivery slots to the shield group.

I think that’s the single thing that would have the biggest impact

Not on Facebook, maybe that's the problem.

You could get round data issues by supermarkets setting up a ‘shield@‘ email which those who wanted to register for priority would use (to avoid being lost in the slew of unanswered regular customer emails) and saying that by registering they were consenting to the supermarket contacting the Hub to confirm eligibility,

I don't understand why your toddler can't hug their dad? That's not what the advice says.

If you HAVE to leave the house and do shopping (if no one can drop to you) then it's you who would have to isolate yourself from everyone else in the household, for the stipulated time. I realise this is an impossibility, really, which is why my sister and her family have reluctantly all agreed to all stay at home for the duration. So no hugs embargo needed.

@clevername it does on the high risk letters. To stay 2m away from others, minimise time in shared spaces, use separate towels, sleep in a different bed

Morrissons food boxes? Amazon pantry? Just to get a few basics until you can get a delivery slot.

It says

'Stay away from children...'

my 19 year old has cystic fibrosis, asthma and diabetes. She is in the sheilding group. So to allow her more freedom than being stuck in her room, the whole household is now in the 12 weeks and relying on deliveries. As the only parent in the house I cant risk infection or it will be the shielded person and a 13 year old left. So Ive said NO there is nobody to help.
Even if the basics food package is just for her it will help.
And someone to collect her prescriptions

A few basics doesn't keep a family of six fed for long, unfortunately.

I just felt the advice didn't really help, in that I can't follow it unless I sit in a room for 12 weeks and drink gin and don't don't contribute at all when dh is working from home and kids are all home.

If it offered concrete support like supermarket delivery priority that would be great,

Morrisons is sold out of food boxes. ASDA website has a queue to even look at it

We have two vulnerable toddlers. It is physically impossible to distance from them so the whole household is isolating for 12 weeks.

Fortunately DH is able to WFH but if he hadn’t he would have either moved out or quit his job.

Nothing is worth putting a vulnerable person at risk.

SFCA is your dh shopping for you?

I agree it's extremely unworkable. My husband got the email but when he queried it he was given two scenarios and if he fell under either of them then he should be shielding. He didn't fall under either scenario, although he does have a health condition.

There's just three of us in the house including my 16 year old. We are going out for exercise and essential shopping only. He is staying put in the house. It's difficult to know what to do for the best but I believe they have over-estimated the number of people who actually should be shielding.