To think if we can't trust NHS staff to follow the rules...

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My best friend of very many years is a nurse at a major hospital A&E. She works two shifts a week after having her two children and has obviously been busy working this week.

However, I am furious to find that she has sent her two children into nursery for their two days this week because her husband 'can't work from home' whilst having to look after the children. He works in computer games. And she's asking him to look after his children for 2 days a week so she can go and work on the front line.

She thinks this is entirely justified as the spaces are open to her and her husband out earns her by about 4 times and if she stayed at home with them the NHS would lose a nurse. I am a teacher. Those spaces are for emergency childcare only. Every child who comes into school is risking the health of me and every other child there. Those places are NOT for lazy arse husbands who cannot be bothered to move their working day to later in the evening or a day at the weekend instead because they don't want to look after the children they created.

Am I being unreasonable to be so angry?! If nurses are flouting the rules what hope have we got for everyone else?!

Clearly only me upset by this then! Maybe I should calm down!

Disgusting. My SIL has done the same. She’s a key worker and is sending her child to nursery despite her husband being at home. No shits given about her son’s welfare in a nursery where staffing ratios are not at normal safe levels, and he has contact with DC of medical staff who are high risk for infecting him. Some people just want to dump their DC if they possibly can, they give zero fucks about keeping them safe.

Interesting that in both cases it's the front-line nurse risking her own life who's getting the condemnation, not the lazy sod of a husband who can't step up and look after his own child in the comfort of his own home

Oh I condemn the husband equally! They both give zero fucks about their child’s safety. Their only thought is to offload him if possible.

Someone I know is the same! Sending her 3 young kids as she’s a “technically a key worker” in even though she’s working from home (admin). So so selfish.

Ds isnt even my dps son.

Not a booody chance would he have him going out to school, when he could have him at home.

Lots of us are juggling WFH and childcare.

Why is it only men that seem to not be able to even attempt to do it? They would rather risk the health of their child, wife, teachers and everyone.....instead of being a parent.

He is a fucking twat

Its disgusting. Again selfish lazy parenting.

I saw a guy the other day in my clinic who said his daughter has been dumping her kids on him all day so she can go and work as a receptionist somewhere (no idea where). He is nearly 90 and has a number of serious illnesses.

Slightly different situation but I am a bit perplexed about a couple of doctors sending in their (NT)13 and 14 year olds in to school for "childcare".

I did think they should know better

The husband is the one I am judging most in this. Lazy and selfish

It's 2 days a week. Literally if he earns 4x as much as her I'm sure he can look after his DC on those 2 days and earn only 3x as much

Your judging the wrong person.
Him not her, shes doing her best.

Yes. Another story here - children of doctors are being sent into their private school even though their mothers are SAHMs. Apparently the head teacher is just rolling over and letting them do it. Teaching staff are furious but powerless.

Obviously, it is not easy trying to work at home with young children
However, I blame the husband here, is seems unprepared to look after his own children.
WFH is then done in small bursts; early morning, late evening, when very young child asleep ( young children have daily naps).
Slightly older child will watch cartoons for short bursts during the day.
From primary age, they should be able to amuse themselves for quite long periods, just adult supervision regularly.
Obviously this varies if your child has special needs , etc

Depends on the age of the children I think... if they are old enough to entertain themselves for the majority of the day then yes it’s selfish, but if they are young and require a lot of attention then I don’t see the problem. They all have bills to pay and if they need the husbands income to survive I have no issues with front line staff using what’s available to them to carry on saving our lives. Imagine working on the front line, risking your family and yourselves and then losing your house on top of that, or finding out that because you decided to do what best for your family (having the income to stay afloat) you were being bitched about online.

Well tbh if her salary won't pay the bills & the other option is her quitting, then I'd say fair enough.

Has the husband even tried to work around the kids/different hrs?

That said, I thought that the spaces were for kids of 2 key workers, so how is she getting around that?

Well the issue might be that her husband is an absolute dickhead who's refusing to look after his own kids.
I would say she shouldn't be with someone like that but life isn't that straightforward.
Why does she deserve equal condemnation to the man refusing to look after his own kids? As a pp has said, she's risking her life here.

Yes, selfish, god forbid a father spends a bit of time looking after his own children so she can go and save lives. Every day I despair of the human race.

YANBU. If she is that lackadaisical with everyone else's health then she sounds like the sort of person who also won't be stripping and the front door, jumping straight in the shower and laundering her clothes straight away.

And words fail me for the husband. If he too were a front line worker and they were sending the children to nursery on rest days so they could rest, I would have sympathy.

This is why the system is broken when it comes to key worker families. The care should be for dual care worker families. Every other business or job which is not essential to the running of the country should be closed. I don't bloody care what side services a business offers - a local business has suggested they open by appointment only to collect orders of fecking craft supplies, because they are a waste contractor as well. If that part of the business is not needed, CLOSE IT. Send the staff home.

And LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN BLOODY KIDS IF YOU CAN.

I am sending my children to their school on the days I am required in mine to look after other people's children. My husband is working every single day because more and more staff are having to go off sick.

I know we are both risking our children and ourselves to provide the service we do to others. But we do it because we are doing our bit. If either of us could stay at home, believe me, we would.

I've heard a similar tale at my sons school .. free childcare and zero fucks given. You will also notice every Tom / dick and Harry now wear NHS uniform or lanyard everywhere they go (even dot from accounts who does fuck all anyway).!

Oh God, her husband is the laziest, most selfish person I have ever had the misfortune to come across. My issue here is that she is LETTING him and is making excuses for him to do so?! He could easily work in the evenings or make up a day at the weekends but she says he needs his downtime so doesn't want to.

I am just so shocked that somebody who is seeing the first hand repercussions of all of this is allowing her husband to get away with being lazy and ridiculous!!

Shame on both the parents. Everyone with kids who is having to WFH all of a sudden whilst also trying to home school is suffering on all levels (practically, emotionally and financially). There is no reason for these people to consider themselves special and this nurse could be responsible for people's deaths because of this shoddy behaviour. I have a neighbour doing the same and contacted the school suggesting they give a clearer message about exactly who should, and shouldn't be using this system. Unless there are very exceptional circumstances, all secondary children should be able to be at home by themselves if needed.

You will also notice every Tom / dick and Harry now wear NHS uniform or lanyard everywhere they go (even dot from accounts who does fuck all anyway)

Oh do fuck off. Have you any idea how crucial to the NHS things such as admin/ accounts/ call takers are?

What next for me - dirty looks and judgement when I'm on my way to or from work in my uniform/ with my lanyard on from dickheads who assume I'm out there working, or pretending to work, for the pure fucking fun of it?

And as PP's have said - judge the husband in this scenario, not the front line NHS nurse who is no doubt seeing things you can only hope you never will.

All this judgement from people is pathetic.

Yes, but it's not her who "sent him" is it, if her husband is at home?

Why do women do this to each other?

The husband is the arse, even if she wanted them in school (doubtful) he could step in. Also if any NHS workers children can stay home then they should, they are much more likely to be carrying the virus and pass to others, it should be both keyworkers (or one obviously if a single parent).

I dont know how true it is today (you might have noticed there's a lot of nonsense out there!) but it's being reported here that people are being mugged for their NHS passes, so be careful about wearing it in public

"He could easily work in the evenings or make up a day at the weekends"

Well then she just work & leave the kid at home.

Although I'm guessing that there would be repercussions.