Lost respect for employer.

[Righteouswarrior]

Just that really. Every move in this crisis seems more about making money othan saving money than our actual health. Wanting more staff in than necessary, all but closing when they thought it would be too expensive to keep us, then when they naively think government is going to pay staff instruct us all to come back to work. I've told them my family come first and taking unpaid leave but still half expecting them to try to say I have no choice once I come out if isolation. This crisis is bringing out the worst in some employers. Think its time to find a new job after this is all over.

its also showing those employers who truly care about their employees while losing money hand over fist

Yes, you're right. My daughters work have been good about all this. Sending them home with full pay.

I have been wholly happy at my employer for a while.

This has made my mind up. When it's over I am going. they head hunted me. Paid me quite a bit of money, in a golden hello. My contract works well in my favour, so I will be ok.

But they do not give one shiny shit. They have treated staff awfully. They gave the running of the 'Covid project' to 3 people. The H&S director and 2 members off senior staff who have no people skills and no idea how the business works.

The H&S director is at the end of her tether with the 2 idiots they are working with. As they just go off and make Adhoc decisions for themseleves and implement things.

It's been a shit show. They tried to force my team to be in, I wasnt having it. One person must be in. Fine, we will cycle working at home. Within hours my team were packed up and sent home anyway. 3 different directives in 3 hours, turned out H&S hadnt been consulted

During these times people in charge need to be personable AND know what they are doing.

I put my OOO on on Friday explaining that as I have no childcare, I'd be working either 7-12 or 12-5 with additional logging on in the evening (as agreed with my boss)

The MD saw it, phoned my boss and said it was unacceptable and any reduction in my hours would result in a salary reduction. I'm a Senior Manager, I work fucking hard, I have a three year old child and I'm desperately trying to juggle a full working day with my husband and the FIRST thing the MD can think to say is 'do your 7.5 hours or I won't pay you.

What a way to motivate the managers who are gonna keep your company running through this shit storm. I'm still fuming.

I have a feeling lots of notices are going to be handed in at the end of this. Though I will try to find another job first obviously.

@LajesticVantrashell my company have said no working from home if you are looking after your children.

A reduction in hours and pay, will be considered (it wont) if exceptional circumstances to accommodate childcare. This is because children could be harmed if not supervised correctly.

My son is 10. In the next room and absolutely fine. Luckily (kind of) DP has already been stood down at work so I can still work.

But I know the CEO will be sat monitoring who is on core hours. I dont have to do core hours. I can do my work any hours of the day.

But, I am not logging on until start time. Logging off, exactly at finish time And taking my lunch break to get me and ds our designated exercise (which will most notably be in the garden.

Where as, before this, I was in early. I finished late and usually worked through lunch and supported lots of other areas of the business.

Not anymore though. Until this is over and I get a new job, they will get what in my contract. No more, no less.

I’m in recruitment and expecting to have a very busy quarter 3 this year

I have been treated brilliantly by my employer. Really thankful to them.

I think a lot of people will stop being so loyal to employers after this.

@itsnotthatcomplicated

Me and DH are splitting the day between us so one of us is looking after DS while the other is working.

Me and DH are splitting the day between us so one of us is looking after DS while the other is working.

Thats a good plan.

Unfortunately, my employer insists that everyone works 8-5 and is not in sole charge of their child at any of the point. So, your dh would need to work outside those hours, if you worked with me.

Personally, on my team, I have decided as long as we are generally keeping up with work and they let me know they are falling behind, so we can rearrange workloads, they can do what they want. We will be a bit behind normal. Everyone is getting used to this new normal.

I am not going to put 2 of my team on unpaid, because they have 8 year olds at home.

That also means I have risked my job, if anyone finds out.

The very very worst thing out of this crisis would be for the population as one to suddenly decide that money isn't everything and that things like commute time and provision for family life are more valuable than a few grand on your salary

It might have to happen anyway. If the oncoming recession is as bad as suggested, employers won't have much money for salaries ....

I’m grateful to have a public sector job that is relatively secure. And I’ve been able to work from home since Friday.

BUT...our most senior managers aren’t dealing with this crisis well. Firing off huge volumes of panicked emails that don’t make sense, contradict each other and put an expectation on staff that is massively unreasonable.

I won’t necessarily leave my job when this is over, but it has confirmed for me that our managers aren’t good leaders.

Husband has had issues and stresses with his employer for a good few months now but this crisis has really shown them for what they are.

After last night's announcement, his boss told them emphatically they would still be open for business. They sell water filter solutions - not something I'd label as essential services. I've been pleading with DH to not go in today - I'm technically vulnerable, so he'll be coming home at lunch time.

I've been told we're all going to get it anyway so don't stress it. From a senior manager in healthcare. If I hadn't been already job searching before this, I definitely would be now.

My husband works for a major dairy and food producer, they have been exceptional, everyone who can WFH, is. DH can’t as he’s an engineering shift manager so is continuing to work, with hygiene procedures are ramped up to the max.
DD is a Teacher, because she has a baby under one, she is WFH.

Her partner works in IT security, everyone bar him and one other are WFH, a fortnight ago his boss said, even before the 80% pay grant thing came in that he had £1million put aside to keep the company going and pay everyone.
My family are exceptionally lucky to all be secure.
I am so glad I gave up work at Xmas!

My mum has worked for the same company for 25 years, she says she will probably leave once all this has blown over. Boss has said he’ll apply for the 80% government thing but that he expects them all to carry on working from home whilst only being paid 80%. He also sneezed on the back of one of my mums colleagues heads the other day. And never washes his hands despite the pandemic. My mum needs to money to pay her mortgage (he’s also mortgage free) so it won’t be until it’s all over but I think this is the final straw. He’s ruined his business because everyone at the office has said they will be leaving. He’s been taking all the profits for 10 years whilst not putting anything back into the business, my mums basically on minimum wage (he lowered her wage during the recession and never put it back up again) and basically just treats her like shit.

My employer encouraged people to wfh as soon as the pandemic was confirmed in China as they expected it to go around the world like bird flu / Swine flu. But a lot of managers refused until the virus hospitalised a colleague who was in his twenties. Perhaps it’s the same in your company - management is a professional field that UK employers recruit on personality rather than experience due to an overall lack of experience in this country - most managers have no idea how to effectively manage people to get the most output. They just want to impress their bosses with a whole team ‘battling it out’ in the office.

I work for a travel management firm - I thought I'd be jobless by now but instead the CEO and directors have taken a pay cut, sent everyone to work from home, unrestricted hours, work when we can - daily calls with the team which started yesterday and today by asking how all the parents were doing given that we're now doubling up as teachers as well. Offers of support for peoples mental health, and re-assurance that they're making plans (which don't currently include job losses) so that when this is all over and our services are massively in demand we'll be ready.

Its likely that we'll be asked to take a percentage pay cut for a short period of time, and I am happy to. I've only been there a year but I've seen some exemplary management through the past two weeks and they've got my full support and loyalty.

@kittykat7210 he cant do that - in order to claim the 80% the staff cant be working - its meant to be for people who would otherwise be laid off I'm sure?

I work for a motor factors who are classing us as ‘key workers’ our retail shops are still open to the general public and they’re busy! Once this is over they can stick their poorly paid job where the sun don’t shine. Profits over people all the way here

My DH can't work from home - building trade; building supplies sales and delivery. Last night he was told they were closing following the announcement. This morning he was told he has to work. Alternatives are that he can use up his annual leave allowance until that's run out, he can take sick leave (SSP only) or he can be sacked.

One of his colleagues is diabetic and he is also working. Obviously he should be self-isolating at home - but he can't afford to live on SSP so he's working. It's an absolute disgrace.

@Serendipity79 I have no doubt he would lay them off rather than pay them despite the fact he could pay them. He’s using the 80% as a loophole to fill his greedy pockets.

@kittykat7210 well if it's any consolation to you he would be very likely to find himself in front of a judge if he does that. That would be fraud. He is intending to fraudulently have the government cover his wage bill for 12 weeks whilst continuing to turn a profit and use his workforce. That's not the purpose of the payments (they are purely designed to pay 80% of the employees who would otherwise be laid off - employees cannot work and have their salary covered by the government. It is only for people who are stood down) and you can bet that the government will be needing to claw back every penny they possibly can after this is over. I think they will punish cases like this extremely severely.

Sorry, that should say "80% of the SALARIES of employees who would otherwise be laid off"