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Do you think reporting is being restricted?

179 replies

jellybeanteaparty · 22/03/2020 23:20

I have noticed that the news and reporting is quite different from lots of news stories. No footage of outside hospital's, no interviews with relatives or people with the virus or the medics. Initially there was some but now they only seem to show scenes in other countries. Is this by agreement with all news agencies? It feels odd compared to the usual circus! Not sure I mind just curious if others have noticed.

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alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:05

So you think the government never restrict the press in ties of national emergency? If you know anything about this subject you will know they do.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:06

Admittedly social media makes it more challenging to do so, but not impossible.

Flaxmeadow · 23/03/2020 10:09

If you're addressing me alloutof..

As I said last night in this very topic (page1) ...

Today 00:03Flaxmeadow

There probably will be some kind of restrictions but that doesn't necessarily mean its a bad thing

DandyPenguin · 23/03/2020 10:11

I think the news reporting is purposefully measured.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:17

Measured?
So ignoring the fact that Boris' herd immunity theory has been attacked by scientists and now quietly dropped. Ignoring how terrible the government handling of this is?

@Flaxmeadow Sorry forgot that. At least we both agree that there are reporting restrictions in place which is what the OP asked.

Mimishimi · 23/03/2020 10:18

Nelly: I'm with you. I suspect this virus was deliberately created and there could be people releasing vials of this stuff for all we know.

A lot of Nazi scientists were spirited away after WW2 to Western countries. A lot of them are very pissed off that we were horrified by what they had done.

Lumene · 23/03/2020 10:22

No we have a free press here. How would someone I. The UK ‘restrict’them all?

Lumene · 23/03/2020 10:24

This thread has totally jumped the shark. Calm down.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:24

"In the United Kingdom, a DSMA-Notice (Defence and Security Media Advisory Notice)[1] is an official request to news editors not to publish or broadcast items on specified subjects for reasons of national security. DSMA-Notices were formerly called a DA-Notice (Defence Advisory Notice), and before that called a Defence Notice (D-Notice) until 1993.

As of 2020, the system is still in use in the United Kingdom."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSMA-Notice

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:25

From same wiki page -

Known notable uses
In 1967, a political scandal known as the D-notice affair occurred, when Prime Minister Harold Wilson made an attack on the Daily Express newspaper, accusing it of breaching two D-notices which advised the press not to publish material which might damage national security. When the newspaper asserted it had not been advised of any breach, an inquiry was set up under a committee of Privy Counsellors. The committee found against the government, whereupon the government refused to accept its findings on the disputed article, prompting press outrage and the resignation of the Secretary of the D-notice committee.

It has been reported[by whom?] that in 1971, four days following the Baker Street robbery, a D-Notice was issued, requesting that reporting be discontinued for reasons of national security. It is claimed that some security boxes contained embarrassing or nationally sensitive material. However, an investigation some years later showed that a request had never been made to the D-Notice committee.[4] In fact, The Times newspaper was still reporting about the case over two months later.[5]

In 2004 and 2005, three blanket letters were sent to newspapers advising against publication of countermeasures used against roadside ambushes of British forces in the Iraq War.[3]

On 8 April 2009, the Committee issued a DA-Notice in relation to sensitive anti-terror documents photographed when Assistant Commissioner Bob Quick arrived at Downing Street for talks about current police intelligence.[6]

On 25 November 2010, the Committee issued a note to editors drawing attention to standing DA-Notices 1 and 5 in relation to sensitive documents expected to be released on the website WikiLeaks.[7][8][9][10]

In June 2013, a DA-Notice was issued asking the media to refrain from running stories on the US PRISM surveillance programme, and on British involvement therein.[11]

In October 2013, Prime Minister David Cameron made a veiled threat to newspapers over NSA and GCHQ leaks, stating in Parliament that the government might use "injunctions or D-notices or the other tougher measures" to restrain publication of leaked classified information if newspapers did not voluntarily stop publishing them.[12]

In 2017, a notice was issued to British journalists regarding revealing the author of a controversial dossier alleging collusion between Donald Trump and the Russian government during the 2016 presidential election.[13] Multiple British outlets ignored this advisory and revealed his name anyway, including BBC News, The Daily Telegraph and The Guardian.[13]

On 7 March 2018 and on 14 March 2018 two notices were issued to protect MI6 in relation to some aspects of the Skripal affair. In the early 1990s Sergei Skripal was recruited by Pablo Miller, the MI6 agent inside the UK embassy to Estonia in Tallinn. The MI6 officer under diplomatic cover in Moscow at this time was Christopher Steele. Miller was also the handler of Skripal after he went to jail and was released by Russia in a spy swap. Both lived in Salisbury. Steele and Miller worked for Orbis Business Intelligence which compiled the controversial Trump–Russia dossier, comprising 17 memos written in 2016 alleging misconduct and conspiracy between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Putin administration. While the precise nature of the relations between Skripal, Miller, and Steele were hidden, enough was already known to raise questions about Skripal's ongoing involvement with British intelligence.[14][15][16]

LuxLFC · 23/03/2020 10:27

@Lumene free press? What about injunctions, superinjunctions & media blackouts?

Tonyaster · 23/03/2020 10:29

This thread has totally jumped the shark. Calm down

Completely this. Lots of you sound unhinged.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:32

Hi Tonyaster I recognise you from a few weeks ago when you were telling us all we were crazy to be worried about what was happening in China, and that this was only a mild cold for nearly everyone.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:33

We don't have a free press. Anyone who thinks we have is naive.
There have been many stories for example about British royals widely reported abroad, that newspapers have been banned from reporting here.

Tonyaster · 23/03/2020 10:37

Well apologies, if I really did say we were crazy to be worriedthen I was wrong. that this was only a mild cold for nearly everyone it is the case that this is not a seruous illness for the vast vast majority. Of course that doesn't mean we should do anything to encourage its spread.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:42

Stats out of China is that for about half of people it is like a mild cold. For about 30% it is medically mild i.e. they will not need medical intervention but will feel very ill.
Personally I think the NHS will be overwhelmed by this second group contacting them as they will panic because their symptoms are not like a mild cold. They will feel very ill, but the illness will be self limiting.

Lack of real information is dangerous.

CatChant · 23/03/2020 10:45

No, I don't.

Because my DH and his colleagues are working like buggery to ensure this pandemic is reported accurately and to ensure public scrutiny of the government's response.

Interviews are not in person when they can be avoided because of social distancing - you cannot scrutinise reports from around the world without knowing how vitally important it is that we socially distance as strictly as possible now, all of us.

For details about local rates of sickness and death the obvious source would be local newspapers. Except there are hardly any local newspapers now and those left are a shadow of what they once were. Because people stopped buying them.

That's why there was no local paper to hold Kensington and Chelsea Council and Grenfell Tower's management team to account before 72 people died horribly and needlessly.

Society gets the newspapers it deserves.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:50

Of course you can interview people. There is the phone or skype.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 10:51

I agree that society gets the papers it deserves though. Proper journalism is very under valued.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 23/03/2020 11:13

Proper journalism is very under valued

And no-one is prepared to pay for it now - they want free news, not accurate news. Online reporting ha a lot to answer for.

LuxLFC · 23/03/2020 11:13

Two people in my city have died from C19- 1 an 80 year old with underlying illnesses is being reported by the press. The other, a 45 year old has not been mentioned in any local press. The latter was confirmed on a local fb group by one of the mods & has been named by them so in no doubt it's true.

Ginfilledcats · 23/03/2020 11:26

Or maybe there's no one to interview outside hospitals as people are social distancing?

But I agree with pp, if this is a ruse, health care are not aware or involved and are just as terrified, if not more than joe public

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 11:32

Yes agree, the advent of "free" news has been damaging to democracy.

alloutoffucks · 23/03/2020 11:33

If they can skype interview people in China, they can do the same in the UK.

LuxLFC · 23/03/2020 12:00

Sophia Myles took a news crew with her to hospital before her father died from the virus.
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/coronavirus-sophia-myles-doctor-who-father-death-hospital-bed-covid-19-a9416571.html

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