An 18 year old has died in the UK of Coronavirus

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I’m sure I read somewhere that a portion of the people dying are dying WITH Coronavirus rather than that being the thing that killed them

is there any need for this

original list not loading, but here is online summary of it.

Eczema & obesity are NOT on the list. The relevant conditions are much worse than those.

Countessa That's probably true, let's remember that some of the people who have died would have died anyway.

Why do people says oh the person had underlying health conditions like that makes it ok. My wonderful DSIS has a serious lung condition. From having pneumonia as a child. She has less than 50% lung capacity. You would never know. Most of her newer friends don’t. She has a degree and masters, works full time, lives with friends, goes ok holiday. She can’t do any sport or exercise past walking but she plays loads of music. She’s one of my best friends. If she gets this she has a very high chance of dying. She’s 27. If the worst happened and someone said oh sure she had an underlying health condition how is that supposed to make it okay. Why don’t you all care about people like my sister.

@ViciousJackdaw the way I posted maybe sounded awful so I do apologise but as you say a number of the people who are dying with corona instead of that being the main thing will still be counted the numbers

saying underlying conditions matter Doesn't make it ok for those folk to suffer, but puts risk to everyone else in perspective.

If 75% of us are going to get this & manage it at home, we shouldn't be made to feel terrified of it happening. We're trying to slow it down so the best treatment is there for the vulnerable.

I take back something I said, obesity I finally found in the lists of conditions, when I got it to load. I want to bet that it was morbid obesity but no further info.

I’ve got fibromyalgia which is a terrible painful neurological condition. I’m surprised it doesn’t fall into the at risk category,

@Badskinday how bad was the pneumonia If you don’t mind me asking? I it terrible 10 years ago requiring HDU and CPAP but my breathing seems to be ok now, I was concerned but my boss says I don’t fit the risk categories which going from the list I don’t

Diabetes is an underlying condition which puts someone at risk. It might not have been he had cancer or something.

additionally this is the list defined as particularly vulnerable in the UK

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People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include:

Solid organ transplant recipients

People with specific cancers:
people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer
people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
people having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors

people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs

People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD.

People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell).

People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection.

Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.
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The information isn't hard to find

My 15 yr old son with cf has been tested today. I'm terrified, his mild cold has suddenly got a lot worse and whilst he has 80% lung function he does have significant lung damage and I feel totally helpless. He matters, underlying condition or not.

@TitsalinaBumSquash have some unMumsnetty hugs. But not too close. I hope your son is OK

Titsalina

Family member of a friend died last week: young woman who had previously had major surgery.

Jumbo I have fibromyalgia too. It's not an at risk condition because it's not autoimmune and doesn't impact things like your heart or lungs

Most adults have some sort of underlying medical condition.

I'd question that, to be honest. I'm in my 50s and I have no medical conditions whatsoever, neither do the majority of people that I know.

I'll be happy to stand corrected if I can get some stats on it

So it’s ok the 18 yo passed away because they had pre existing medical issues is it. I see it trotted out regularly as vital information like that makes it ok.

My 15 yo has CF. Fucking petrified doesn’t come close. And her life isn’t worth any less than yours just because you’ve been blessed with good health.

So pleased all of those who insist that it makes a difference (ie. they’re healthy so less worried eg. they won’t die so it doesn’t affect them) make themselves known as the pricks they are. Because doing so won’t keep you safe. Lots of people have been very ill and several in the 30+ bracket have died, not all had pre existing conditions.

Thinking of you and your son @TitsalinaBumSquash I really hope he is ok x

I hope this shocks the young into staying at home!!!

@TitsalinaBumSquash. Hope your son is ok, wishing you both the best

No one is insinuating that people with underlying health conditions don’t matter etc....

They point this out because it means there’s an expectation that these underlying health conditions Will makes it likely that the poor soul would lose their life.

Nothing to do with their life being less important. It’s absolutely awful that people are dying from this shifty bastard virus regardless of the circumstances.

Underlying health conditions are known to have a far higher mortality rate than of the general public so it’s important to mention that when sharing information about the death.

It’s much more expected that those poor people will die compared to the general public. It’s horrible

It's awful this 18 year old has died but the reason they are making the distinction about them having an underlying health condition is that it shows healthy 18 year olds are not any more at risk than was already known. We already know all people in the vulnerable group are more at risk than others their age and must take extra precautions.

No one is insinuating that people with underlying health conditions don’t matter etc

This. It would be irresponsible for the health condition not to be mentioned so that vulnerable people know they are at risk.

If had an increased risk, I'd damn well want to know about it. If they didnt tell people this and someone caught it and died not knowing their risk was increased there would be an outcry about withholding information wouldnt there?

It doesn't mean those people are expendable or that its ok- but its a fact and we need facts about this illness if we are to beat it and prevent further deaths

I felt a lump in my throat and a knot in my stomach when I read this. Clicked assuming I was going to discover something new, 18 year olds can just die from this. No link so I cant check quickly.

Turns out he had underlying health conditions.

It is really sad. But your heading mislead and panicked me. Wish people would think before they post.