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Pets at Home threatening schools with legal action after classing emplyees as key workers

184 replies

Keepcalmanddoyourbit · 22/03/2020 09:32

twitter.com/simonkidwell/status/1241390189102186497

Advising employees to contact their legal department re: school places

OP posts:
PertEllaTitsahoy · 22/03/2020 13:00

Cancel the cheque!

bananacakeZ · 22/03/2020 13:00

Why don't they just start a delivery service?

corythatwas · 22/03/2020 13:01

A lot of pet food can also be ordered online: not all pet shops need to stay open.

For some pets, food can be supplied at home: I could keep my large collection of tropical fish alive for a long time on the leftovers of the plant food etc we eat at home. They wouldn't enjoy it as much as the luxurious and varied diet they usually get, but they wouldn't die.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/03/2020 13:02

I've ordered from PAH online before as my cat doesn't eat supermarket food and, despite what some people think, he is an essential part of my life. There's no need for PAH shops to be open in most cases though.

CappyCapCap · 22/03/2020 13:03

They sell specialist foods you can’t get in supermarkets.

Read the threads.

This doesnt mean it must be open all the time and employees need to put their kids in school, though does it.

PotholeParadise · 22/03/2020 13:04

Pets At Home sell live animals. If they can't get staff to go into the premises to clean the pens out and feed them each and every day, they will suffer and potentially starve to death.

CappyCapCap · 22/03/2020 13:05

Pets At Home sell live animals. If they can't get staff to go into the premises to clean the pens out and feed them each and every day, they will suffer and potentiallystarve to death.

Just going to post the same thing to people who cant be arsed to read the thread.

This doesnt mean it must be open all the time and employees need to put their kids in school, though does it?

DippyAvocado · 22/03/2020 13:05

But it doesn't take every staff member to do that. They will have to learn to operate on a skeleton staff and take a hit on profits like just about every other business.

PertEllaTitsahoy · 22/03/2020 13:06

Fuck it, we're all going to die arent we, if this thread is anything to go by...

SarahInAccounts · 22/03/2020 13:07

Animals can be changed and cleaned at any time of day.

The schools are open for key staff. People who work here just don't qualify.

corythatwas · 22/03/2020 13:07

Pothole Paradise: keeping the animals alive requires one employee per store to go in max twice a day. That is not a situation that most stores couldn't meet due to childcare issues.
Do you suppose every single employee in every single store is a single parent of small children who cannot leave the house?
In densely inhabited places you could even have one employee covering 4 or 5 stores.

PotholeParadise · 22/03/2020 13:09

Cappy I thought you'd say that. And I don't give an animal dropping. If people can keep saying 'what about switching to home delivery', I can, and will point out that their knee-jerk reactions over-simplify the situation.

Derbygerbil · 22/03/2020 13:12

I manage 100 staff... there are key worker functions carried out by the team, but unlike, say, a doctor, it’s not 100% of what we do, and there are enough employees without school age children to carry these out... Therefore I haven’t designated any key workers... PAH should do the same.

CappyCapCap · 22/03/2020 13:13

I thought you'd say that. And I don't give an animal dropping. If people can keep saying 'what about switching to home delivery', I can, andwillpoint out that their knee-jerk reactions over-simplify the situation

Where did people say the animals shock be left in their own filth and starve?

Who said no staff should be in at all?

No one. Your point about animals means jack shit, because the live animals dont meant the store needs to be open. It doesnt mean employees children must go into school.

Snorkelface · 22/03/2020 13:14

In France (on lockdown already - we're not yet) these are the shops and services which are available. I don't know if the staff are considered key workers or whether all these shops have stayed open everywhere but this is what is permitted. No idea if we'll go the same way........

Food and drink

Retail sale of frozen food products
General food trade
Convenience stores
Supermarkets
Hypermarkets
Specialist fruit and vegetable shops (grocer)
Specialist meat and meat products shops (butcher)
Specialist fish, crustaceans and molluscs shops (fishmonger)
Specialist bread, pastry and confectionery shops (bakery)
Retail sale of beverages
Other specialist food shops
Retail sale of pet food and pet supplies
Gardening supply shops that also stock animal food (like Gamm Vert)
Food retailing on stalls and markets
Sale by vending machines and other retail sale not in stores, stalls or markets
Food banks and food charities

Food distribution by charitable associations
Petrol stations and garages

Maintenance and repair of motor vehicles, agricultural vehicles, machinery and equipment
Trade in automotive equipment
Sale and repair of motorcycles and cycles
Retail sale of fuel in specialised stores
Media, technology and computers

Retail sale of newspapers and stationery in specialised stores
Retail sale of information and communication equipment in specialised stores
Retail sale of computers, peripheral units and software in specialised stores
Retail sale of telecommunications equipment in specialised stores
Repair of computers and personal and household goods
Repair of computers and communication equipment
Repair of computers and peripheral equipment
Repair of communication equipment
Pharmacies and medical

Retail sale of pharmaceutical products in specialised stores
Retail sale of medical and orthopaedic articles in specialised stores
Laundry and dry cleaning

Laundry and dry-cleaning services
Wholesale laundry and dry cleaning
Retail laundry and dry cleaning
Hotels and accommodation

Hotels and similar accommodation
Tourist and other short-term accommodation where it constitutes a regular place of residence for the persons living there
Campgrounds and parks for caravans or recreational vehicles where they are a regular place of residence for the persons living there
Funeral services

Funeral services and funeral offices
Banks, finance, insurance and employment

Activities of labour placement agencies
Activities of temporary employment agencies
Financial and insurance activities
Farming, construction and equipment stores

Farm suppliers
Retail sale of building materials, hardware, paints and glass in specialised stores
Rental and leasing of other machinery, equipment and property
Rental and leasing of agricultural machinery and equipment
Rental and leasing of construction machinery and equipment

PotholeParadise · 22/03/2020 13:17

Cappy on the last page I've seen someone say that Pets at Home shod be forced to close entirely so that they can't claim any staff need childcare, and of course, the usual suspect posting that all domestic animals should be put down.

If you ain't willing to say "okay that's too far" because they're not arguing with you, then I will.

PertEllaTitsahoy · 22/03/2020 13:20

The usual suspect who was rightly ignored because we dont feed the trolls.

FallonSwift · 22/03/2020 13:22

An nhs worker that needs to work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?
How are they getting food for themseleves?

I was responding to a point which someone had made about PAH not needing to be open between 9-3. People work different hours.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 22/03/2020 13:28

I would be in favour of an order that all domestic pets be killed and let the vets concentrate on humans but we are where we are and those are key workers

I'm often shocked at some posts on MN but this really takes the biscuit. You do realise that many people will rely on their pets even more now they are self isolating? Hell would freeze over before they got anywhere near my cat.

Coronavirus really has shown a lot of people On MN in their true colours - selfish, thoughtless and downright nasty. Thankfully I haven't come across it in real life, only with the keyboard warriors of MN.

1forsorrow · 22/03/2020 13:50

Their staff can't all have children can they? So some staff might be off but surely they would have enough to open and couldn't some staff change their hours so one parent working 9 - 5 and the other going into work in the shops from 6 till 10.

CappyCapCap · 22/03/2020 13:56

If you ain't willing to say "okay that's too far" because they're not arguing withyou, then I will.

Firstly, I missed the post.

To be fair PAH do not need to stock live animals. Something cab be put in place to have the ones they have temporialy rehomed. Unlikely they wi sell many at the moment anyway.

However, they still dont need to be open just for the live animals. They can also open in different ways to what they do now.

I was responding to a point which someone had made about PAH not needing to be open between 9-3. People work different hours.

Yes, they do. There will be none or very few people who can only go between 9-3 on weekdays.

And for those that can only do that, it can be open. That doesnt mean they need to force employees to put their kids in school. Theres lots of options available.

As I said, when the school are over whelmed and the schools closed what will this group, who can only go between 9-3, monday to Friday do when PAH closes?

Because if they cant possibly open without forcing employees to put their kids in school, they will close when schools do.

Of course they wont, they will change what they do. To remain open. Why not just do that now?

CappyCapCap · 22/03/2020 13:59

Jesus wept.

Why would domestic pets need to killed? How is that actually helping?

Xenia · 22/03/2020 14:08

Surely that is because it is being done in other countries as a result of the virus - China anyway
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51614957

www.thesun.co.uk/news/11007758/china-executes-pet-dogs-coronavirus/

It is an interesting moral issue - are humans more important than other animals? Indeed does the virus have as much right to life as humans do?

Lynda07 · 22/03/2020 14:08

Why don't we just leave 'Pets at Home' to sort it out for themselves.

PertEllaTitsahoy · 22/03/2020 14:09

Pets dont need to be killed.

Pets wont die because a pet shop cant have its workers classed as key workers.

Pets at Home can stay open whilst not forcing staff to send their children to school to come to work.