To resent parents who are still sending their kids to school on Monday

[letmeinthroughyourwindow]

Not the genuine cases, obviously.

But I'm a teacher and we will be opening for the duration because 40% of our pupils have at least one parent who is a keyworker.

Before the list was released, the government told us to expect 10% and we planned accordingly. In fact, we planned for 20%.

When the list was released, it was so broad that far more parents than we ever expected fell into one of the categories.

Now, if your need is genuine then of course I want to care for your child. I'm happy to do it, and proud that doing so keeps you working.

But we have so many parents who are allowed to send their child to school, but shouldn't be, that it's infuriating me.

If you are a keyworker but your partner is a stay-at-home parent should you be sending them in?

If you are a keyworker but your partner works from home or is allowed to work from home indefinitely, should you be sending them in?

My sister's employer is allowing all employees who are parents to work from home on full pay, but many are saying that they don't need to, because their partner is a keyworker so their kids can still go to school

Just because you can send them, doesn't mean you should. It shouldn't be the best or easiest option for you, it should be a last resort if there is nowhere else to keep them safe.

The number one, most critical piece of advice for keyworker parents is, 'if it is at all possible for children to be kept at home then they should be.'

Please don't think I'm lazy and cba babysitting these children. I cried when my class went home yesterday, and care about every child in school. If I am in work full time anyway, then it really doesn't matter how many children are in the classroom.

But so many people don't understand social distancing. They are walking around like they are immortal, or only thinking that they themselves will probably be ok if they get it. For social distancing to have the desired effect, then everyone who can be at home, should be. If there was a chance of your child dying from this, would you send them to school? Well then think about who might die because they came into contact with your child.

And all of this brought on by a friend who called me last night to say that she is thrilled to be able to send her child to school on Monday because she is a deliveroo driver, even though her unemployed bf will be home all day on the PlayStation.

He’ll also have to think v hard about what’s critical and ignore the rest.

This. Exactly this. Life is not normal at the moment, and pretending that it is remotely important that your DH does a full day's work is, frankly, delusional.

If he does some of the critical work, and your baby survives, and other people survive because your baby isn't in nursery helping to maintain and spread the pool of the virus, then that is an excellent outcome.

The quicker you do what is necessary for ALL, the quicker you and your DH will, like the rest of us, be out of this mess.

I am a doctor and my husband a self employed tradesman . We will lose his income entirely so he can stay at home with the children. We would not dream of sending them to school. We will lose his income (he earns more than me) but that’s the way it is.

FullMoon28, you supply motor parts to garages. You are going on as if you're on the front line for the NHS. You're very loosely based as a key worker, in all reality it'll be reduced to two key workers anyway so it won't be an issue for you.

Technically I am a key worker.

There a huge difference between my role and HCP/teacher.

Cant imagine making out my role would make the country crumble if I dont go do it, or use my job to history putting others at risk

Since DH is a key worker, my son's nursery was 'happy' to have him even though I'm not working, and they are aware of our situation. I get that they don't want to have to close, but it seems pretty irresponsible to me that they're more than willing to accept kids who don't need to be there.
(Obviously I am not sending him)
Anyone know what we're supposed to do re:paying for nursery if the kids aren't there?

I am enabling him 😂 it's easy to sit behind your computers and think you can do it but I know my baby and nobody is getting a full days work in whilst looking after him.

So it’s easy to sit behind a computer then

I am literally putting my family at risk next week for pathetic fathers who can’t multitask what countless of other parents do and are doing in the same and worse situation, along with the women allowing them to do it.

The government have to draw the line somewhere, unfortunately this measure has been taken so the country can keep running!

It is actually quite frightening that you actually believe the bullshit you are peddling. You should be ashamed of yourself

@Fullmoon28

Buy a playpen. It's how mothers have managed for centuries.

And tell your OH to grow a pair and shape up.

FullMoon28, you supply motor parts to garages

Seriously? Oh this just gets worse.

In other news another 53 people have died from C19 today. But still, I should be exempt from the rules because...

Fullmoon theres no reason why your DH couldnt do 10 hour days at the weekend and then another 3-4 hours a day during the week.

Sheesh, I was assuming fullmoon was frontline NHS.

People are dying. What will it require for people to take it seriously?

YANBU Op. My DH and I are both classed as keyworkers due to our roles and the industries we work in, however my DH can work from home, so there's no way our kids are going to school. He is worried he won't get much work done but can work through the evening too so hopefully when I get home he'll be able to get more done then.

I’ve just seen there are almost 800 deaths in Italy today.

I can’t even fathom why people aren’t accepting the severity. 🤯

Yeah, Laurie - I think 300 in Spain also.

YADNBU

My DC's dad (useless exH) told the DC that he could claim to be a key worker so they could go to school. He knows that we can both work from home, but he doesn't want to help them in the day so would rather send them to school than help. I will have them home as he is a useless twat.

For all those saying they can't do calls with children around.

A few weeks ago the National was cooing over children appearing in live tv conference calls.
Suddenly when it's deemed inconvenient - attitudes change.

@Underhisi

ScarlettBlaize the example you gave of violent children was very similar to the example I gave of children requiring support from multiple people whose parents were subject to violence at home. I thought you were referring to that example

No, I didn't see that post - it's a long thread and I was out all afternoon. I wasn't responding to yours

It's posters like @Fullmoon28 i meant

Oh yeah, fullmoon has a posting history.

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3854584-Key-worker-transport

I wonder if she'd share her company so we can report her company for fraud at worst, and gross negligence at best?

Life or death situation and a company who supplies car parts to the public has there staff classed as keyworkers.

You couldn't make it up!

Well, actually maybe you could.

This should never have been left for companies to decide what was key for the fight against Covid19.

I can see an awful lot of pisstaking to come with the whole 80% of wages thing as well.

I hope the whole lot of them get done for fraud when this is all said and done.

It's literally on my doorstep now, people in my local hospital (Dudley) are dying. ICU is nearly at capacity.
Yet idiots like the ones on here are still trying to get their kids into the schools, having their hair done, meeting up in the local park with their kids because they need socialization....they just don't care about anyone but themselves.

YANBU. Both me and DH are key workers. We are not sending our daughter to school.

OP give it a week or two. When the numbers of cases, and sadly deaths, start to soar, people will not be sending their DC unless they really need to. The fewer DC being looked after in school, the better for all there.

I think the care offer will be short lived. It is going to be abused by parents ( I work for in education for an LA and spent Friday trying to sort out the mess caused by the lack preciseness in gov. directives) - too many parents say they are 'entitled' to care for their children, come Monday the system will be overwhelmed ( DfE want pupil numbers) and either more tightening will happen, or schools will pull the offer because they haven't enough staff ( guidance is schools need to try and offer) or the gov will step in and shut them anyway.
This just isn't feasible in my LA especially when trying to match 'social distancing' ( 400 pupils in one primary for Monday!).

Falacy

I’ve just read that, thanks for posting it.

When someone doesn’t even think or know that they are a keyworker before that extensive list came out, then HR departments all over the country decided to take advantage obviously and then suddenly that person uses the ‘status’ as some kind of self important validation that they are on par with frontline healthcare workers etc. and then use this to justify their selfish and immoral decisions, it just shows how right the OP was to start this thread.

Hopefully this has opened up peoples eyes.

DH and I are both nhs frontline staff and are keeping the kids at home. We work opposite long shifts, school doesnt cover our hours so we can't do much more with a 6hr school day.

We're going to be bloody exhausted from either 14hr days or being at home alone with DS3 and DS5. I'm going to look ancient by the end of this!!