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The List of Keyworkers is here

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noblegiraffe · 20/03/2020 00:17

The long-awaited list of keyworkers who will be expected to continue to send their children to school is here:

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-maintaining-educational-provision/guidance-for-schools-colleges-and-local-authorities-on-maintaining-educational-provision

Tbh it seems that it would have been quicker to list people who aren’t keyworkers. It’s going to be way more than schools were expecting and I’m not sure how we’ll cope.

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Sharkyfan · 20/03/2020 06:57

@Me33 yes obviously
Are you not front line health staff or essential support service?
It’s clear to me
But it is also clear that they are saying it should be a last resort and only if children can’t be safely cared for at home.
I know having them off is scary (I have 3, including a seriously bouncy 4 yr old) but I will not use school because my husband will just about manage whilst trying to work from home himself and I don’t want to expose my kids or teachers unless it’s essential for me to do my (front line social care) job

Lindy2 · 20/03/2020 06:57

Yes it's a broad list.

However, I think many parents will prioritise their children's safety over sending them off to be supervised in school.

I can't imagine proper lessons can be provided and when it comes down to it, these children and their families will be more at risk of catching Covid19 because of them being in school and the nature of the work of their parent/parents.

My children could go to school as DH is a key worker. For now they will stay with me, we will social distance and I will try my very hardest to help them learn something.

shellshock77 · 20/03/2020 06:57

Any clarity on whether school office staff are key workers?

voxnihili · 20/03/2020 06:58

@LoudBatPerson - my understanding (SLT) is that there is no obligation to send them, but it’s available should you need it.

Thewheelsarefallingoff · 20/03/2020 06:59

I work for local government in a support role for Adult Social Services and DH works in the oil and gas industry, so we argue that we're on the list. However, we're both WFH and have kept the DCs off since Wednesday. I lost my nerve about sending them in at that point. A friend that does a similar role for me, but in the NHS seems to be expecting a school place, despite her DH working in IT.

EhOh · 20/03/2020 07:00

Does this include all early years settings?

NaturalBornWoman · 20/03/2020 07:01

Does anyone have any clarity as to if you are able to turn down a place if your child falls into the vulnerable groups?

It quite clearly says if children can safely stay home they should. More than once. This thread is the definition of wilfully obtuse.

Florencenotflo · 20/03/2020 07:01

That list is so unclear!

I'm waiting on an email from DD's nursery (attached to the infant school) to clarify their criteria. DH and I fall into the key worker category, DH is a fire fighter, he's been recalled to duty now (so all leave is cancelled and you are covering any shift that needs covering, anywhere in the county to cover those off sick). I work for Social Services coordinating care services for older people, work is crazy at the moment.

But I'm in two minds whether to send Dd to school or not. I am permanently working from home now. By boss knows the situation and is very understanding about me working flexibly, but I need to be a available during the core hours where possible.

Dd could go, she only goes 3 days 8:30-3 anyway, but I'm still left with dd2 (7 months) who would usually be looked after by DH or my mum. My mum is distancing herself from us all as she looks after my grandparents.

So do I struggle on with 2 kids at home while I try and work (with very little support from DH for the time being). Or send Dd in for 2 days a week maybe to make it slightly easier for me to work? But I don't want to put Dd at higher risk of getting the virus, which is the whole point of her not being at school.

LoudBatPerson · 20/03/2020 07:02

@voxnihili thank you. We certainly don't plan too just wanted check exactly where we stood :) I do hope for details on arrangements from the various schools today but trying to avoid phoning the school office as they have been swamped all week.

Me33 · 20/03/2020 07:03

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This has been withdrawn at OP's request.

Royaldada · 20/03/2020 07:05

Good Morning

I am a civil servant in the Rural Payments Agency which is a government agency that administers subsidies to farmers. Does that mean that I am a key worker under these rules

the effective delivery of the COVID-19 response or delivering essential public services such as the payment of benefits, including in government agencies and arms length bodies.

winewolfhowls · 20/03/2020 07:05

Might as well just have exams if there's that many students in anyway and just get the additional students in on exam days

Sharkyfan · 20/03/2020 07:06

@Florencenotflo I don’t understand why you’re not clear - a firefighter and someone in front line adult social care would both be considered key workers. And I believe it’s your employer they’re asking you to clarify with whether you’re essential - not the school.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 20/03/2020 07:07

Jesus that’s a lot of people !
My profession clearly doesn’t fall into it !

Realistically , not everyone will take it up due to concerns etc

But horrible for schools

user246854 · 20/03/2020 07:07

Very unclear especially about EHCP, so what if a child has one but also has a underlying health condition that puts them in the vulnerable bracket

LoudBatPerson · 20/03/2020 07:08

It quite clearly says if children can safely stay home they should. More than once. This thread is the definition of wilfully obtuse.

Except this key bit of information was included in all sections except it seems for the vulnerable children section, hence raising a question of if these children where being treated differently.

In the section relating to key workers it specifically said that, however it was noticeably missing from the vulnerable children part. Hence why I was seeing if anyone working in a school had more clarity.

It's quite easy to imagine that they might insight vulnerable children attend considering the list of vulnerable include those under child protection and children in need.

user246854 · 20/03/2020 07:08

Also can figure out if t/a are included or just teachers

Florencenotflo · 20/03/2020 07:09

@Sharkyfan yes I get that it is my/our employer we need to confirm with (which both will) but I'm more asking what you would do? Struggle to work at home with 2 kids or send one into school (on reduced hours) to make it slightly easier?

JudyCoolibar · 20/03/2020 07:09

So we’ll be teaching full time for half the school AND providing home learning work ANDZ updating online distance learning AND be told we have to work unpaid through the holiday

But don't teachers get paid over the holidays normally?

WindFlower92 · 20/03/2020 07:10

"As a minimum schools should make provision for all children of single parent key workers and those where both parents/carers are key workers. Until and unless there is Government guidance to the contrary, if there is a co-parent who is not a key worker schools are not obliged to make provision."

Portsmouth City Council.

LoudBatPerson · 20/03/2020 07:11

But don't teachers get paid over the holidays normally?

They are paid for their work in term time but the pay is split out into 12 even pay packets, rather than get to nag paid for some of the year and not for the rest.

Teachers working over Easter is asking them to work two extra weeks without extra pay.

WindFlower92 · 20/03/2020 07:11

Vulnerable children's parents will be contacted, rather than parents having to sign up.

Knackeredmommy · 20/03/2020 07:13

Just open schools then, easier to teach than to try and keep that number of children entertained all day.

ineedaholidaynow · 20/03/2020 07:14

Judy teachers salary is spread over the year so they get paid over the holidays, but they don’t get paid for all the school holidays

TSSDNCOP · 20/03/2020 07:14

@Caspianberg

Thank you, your insight and actual experience are very interesting.

I agree, just because your sector is listed won’t mean you are required to work or your child be in school.

Schools that sent out lists yesterday completely jumped the gun. Monday is a work day; all they had to say to staff was expect to work, then stand them down as the situation became clearer. That way expectations are managed more effectively than drawing up lists based on presumption.