AIBU to go for a coffee at friends house ?

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I'll drive there and back. Is it safe in the current virus climate? Friend is not ill that she knows of

I’m really fucking livid that my daughter, who deals with a condition which potentially makes her very vulnerable if she gets ill, and who might well need hospital care even if she doesn’t contract this disease, could be left without crucial hospital care if the beds are cluttered up with loads of the shitty, selfish, entitled and shortsighted people who insist on carrying on. Shame on you all.

Those who have to carry on going to work, and especially those on the frontline whose health will definitely be compromised and whose lives may well end as a result (many doctors/hcp’s have died), deserve much better than that. Fuck me it really makes me angry. How dare you glibly gamble with their lives and the lives of other vulnerable people. Because you simply must have your coffee. Entitled idiots.

I’m so over trying to explain this to people. I can only console myself with the fact that our household, and that of my daughters, has done everything it can, and will continue to do so for however long it takes. I fervently hope that as many people as possible are saved, regardless of the strain on the NHS.

I’m done going over this.

I think 12 months from now many of us will see our friends and acquaintances very differently according to how much of a shit they've given for others during this crisis.

So it's selfish and stupid of 2 friends to even think about meeting for a coffee in an isolated place, regardless if they've both been isolating for weeks already and won't come in contact with anyone else by doing so?

Yet people are still getting on public transport every morning, handling change, travelling half way over town to work in an non essential places. But this isn't selfish or stupid, especially of the employers?

What would be the difference in the same 2 friends sitting down to a coffee on there break at work?

I'm not saying self isolation and social distancing isn't very important, I completely agree with it.

Just leaving this here. Seriously folks, every little helps. We all have tough choices to make and of course there is a consequence which ever way you go. But it's worth remembering that people who will die from this virus will do so slowly and painfully and on their own as infection risk is too high for family and loved ones to be with them in their last moments.

Is that worth your coffee?

@PurpleDaisies there's being concerned for the elderly and vulnerable and then there's being cruel and name calling. There's a difference!
Iv self isolated for 7 days and can now leave my house, I need to go to the supermarket and the pharmacy I'm at risk just by leaving the house anyway!! If we have to isolate every time we get a cough that could be the covid nobody ain't ever going to leave home again! Are you reasonably healthy? Not in contact with any vulnerable person? Then bloody go! More chance of dying via car crash then of this. Hypocrites everywhere.

Stupid people everywhere.

I’ll just leave this here.

The more you know, the more you realise how much you don’t know.

What will be will be, sadly.

I’m going to get back to using my time well.

The two friends sitting down for coffee at work, unless 2 metres apart, are not practicing social distancing when they should be. It is another interaction. Probably quite a long interaction, with multiple opportunities for transmission.

If we have to isolate every time we get a cough that could be the covid nobody ain't ever going to leave home again!

For 14 days, yes. That’s the situation we’re in.

Then bloody go! More chance of dying via car crash then of this.

Have you seen the news about what’s happening in Italy? The whole point is to limit the spread so fewer people die. This isn’t the risk of me personally dying in a car crash. It’s the risk that my having coffee will cause more vulnerable and elderly people do die than otherwise would have.

How many people’s lives are worth that cup of coffee? I’d like a number please.

No. because you may be asymptomatic carriers!
Unless you've been tested, presume you have it.
Be sensible. Have a quick peek at the scenes in Italy if you are n doubt...

Life goes on. Il go out until I’m told I can’t.

You've already been told not to go out! Do a virtual coffee instead.

So, say you don't die in a car crash but are horribly injured. On the way to your coffee. Your ambulance gets to hospital as a critical CV19 patient does. There's only 1 bed left, who gets it?

Are you reasonably healthy? Not in contact with any vulnerable person? Then bloody go! More chance of dying via car crash then of this.
That is shocking. What is wrong with you as a human being? I really don’t understand. You must have read the comments on here.

@daisypond absolutely nothing wrong with me ... you do know all small buisnesses are still trying to operate as normal aswell? Because if they don't they will not only just go out of buisness and be forced to close but they'll also lose their livelihood and be unable to pay bills or rent/mortgages. The government won't force them to close because they'll have to pay something to them and Boris doesn't want that. Thus making everyone terrified to go anywhere or do anything, yes people are ill people are dying of it but they didn't just contract it and die of it they had other serious illnesses. I know lots and lots of people still going out getting there hair done nails going for coffee. Until the country goes into FULL lockdown why not ??

Yes. That is why work is seen as essential contact, because of the economic disaster if we all stop working and all businesses collapse. At work you should be doing social distancing whenever possible. For some non-essential services which require close interactions (eg nails and hairdressing) there is a good argument that we should not be doing it (I am not sure what the government position is on this, my view is that we shouldn’t be doing it). All this has nothing to do with whether you should be doing non-essential social contact.You shouldn’t.

but they didn't just contract it and die of it they had other serious illnesses. I know lots and lots of people still going out getting there hair done nails going for coffee. Until the country goes into FULL lockdown why not ??
You are very misinformed. That’s how it starts off. And you could be spreading it. You’re like a terrorist sympathiser, it is that serious. We have been told what to do about how to prevent it getting horrendously worse, and you are ignoring it. The government doesn’t want to treat you like a toddler having a temper tantrum that wants their own way, but that is how you are behaving. Why are you waiting for big daddy government to punish you? It’s so babyish, and dangerous.

It’s not shocking that people are asking the question it’s shocking how downright appalling people are to each other. Yes it’s a mumsnet thread yeah I am probably being precious but come the fuck on people take a step back. If people can’t ask they will do it anyway, because of others advice they probably won’t.

The guidelines are clear but it’s all very new and if people aren’t getting it absolutely reinforce the message for them to then pass on

Guielines aren,t that clear are they yesterday pubs were open today they are not. Today schools are open Monday they are open for about 20%. They are changing all the time.

Today I know of a friend who has gone to a mates house for drinks tonight and another friend who took the kids to a trampoline park (only to find it closed). Last night another friend was in the pub.
I'm not saying this is all acceptable - but highlighting that people are not isolating. The tramp park friend got me - I mean, really. What did he expect.

I’m sensing a trend among your friends and yourself.... yep a group selfish morons who don’t want to even remotely disrupt your lives to help save other people’s lives. As long as you get your coffees/drinks and so on.

No, it's not essential contact.

Only leave your home to go to work, to get food, get medicine or if you need hospital treatment.

My bet is that the people ignoring advice about social distancing are the very same people who park on the zig-zags outside schools, barge their way to the front of patient queues, hold up baggage check-in at the airport demanding upgrades and book holidays in term-time.

They've always felt entitled to ignore the rules, which they see as being for others, and they always will, and even if it kills someone, it won't be their fault. There will be some guff about it was probably someone else who infected the victim, or how they were old and sick and would have died soon anyway. Most likely they will never realise they caused a death anyway.

When it's all over they will be scoffing at the sensible and compliant for being frightened sheep and boasting how they came through unscathed despite doing their own thing throughout.

Oh, and these are the people who will fraudulently claim key worker status, bully headteachers into going along and laugh at exhausted teachers as they drop their children off and head for a day out.

It's a waste of time engaging with people who think only of themselves and their own comfort and convenience.

The problem is that everyone can find reasons why these measures don’t apply to them.

And that’s a lot of people spreading coronavirus.