Absolutely no going out or socialising?

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My understanding is basically no going out except to work, for food shopping or outdoor exercise away from others. Meaning I can't see my parents, can't go to a cafe and can't even visit same age friends (early 40s).

Other people think I'm being extreme but isn't this whats being asked of us for the next few weeks at least?

Hope your colleague makes a speedy recovery. But where did he get it from? He was obviously out and about to catch it.

The advice is contradictory; schools closed but actually open, stay at home but pubs are required to close, don’t go to work but feel free to squash together in a packed supermarket every morning in an attempt to find loo toll .

So the whole "why is it ok for you to go to Asda but I can't have coffee at my mates house thing" ...

The difference is one is essential and one isn't. It's about a mindset that no one's social life is more important than keeping as many people from an unnecessary death for as long as possible. There will be genuine instances when people have to go out of course.

Those of you who disagree, at what point do you decide you will do your bit?

Purple excellent slide, thanks. It shows exactly what difference one person can make.

And I just can't believe the previous poster with the shellac appointment, get some fucking perspective.

@Leflic - given he's been ill now for 7 days, and incubation is around 5 days before you show symptoms, he probably caught it nearly 2 weeks ago, when everyone was going about life very normally. He hasn't left the house since he started feeling unwell.

Yes I have been self isolating for a week but have had to go out quite a few times to get food as no supermarket delivery slots and I can only get a limited amount of food.
And after a week I am feeling pretty down with this. Only another 12 weeks minimum to go.

May have been posted already but here is the govt guidance on social distancing. See number 5

here is guidance

I'm not sure I've seen this posted yet but someone earlier asked if there was actual NHS advice about socialising in peoples houses. This is pretty clear. Don't do it.

Posted at the same time!

There’s this govt table too

I also need to know the difference between 50 people in the supermarket and someone seeing their sister in their own home?
@Puffalicious really ? You don’t understand the difference between essential and non essential contact?
This is why we need lockdown.

By some comments here, we will all die of stupidity! stay home, minimise contact!

The whole lack of supermarket delivery slots and panic buying is a massive issue with this. I had planned, once the DC finish school tomorrow, to batten down the hatches and hide away as much as possible for the next few weeks -DH and I both able to work from home. But I have needed to go to supermarket/shops every day since Monday as I simply can't get everything I need when I go - earliest I can get there is 9.30 and the shelves are stripped - we are a household of 6 so get through quite a lot in a day. I can't see that changing next week. I had no idea about delivery slot hoarders but surely they are just prolonging this because there are more people out and about. And having to visit more than one shop.

And to the PP who asked about click & collect - I haven't been able to book one of those either.

I do wonder how restocking works - why it all goes out en masse. We have a big Tesco near us which changed from 24 hour opening to closing to restock and opening at 6 - a friend of mine apparently got told there'd be a 2-hour wait to get out at 6.45 the other morning!!! All well and good to castigate others for going out but until people act less selfishly, many have no choice.

I’m finding friends IRL are really still quite blasé or at least there’s some weird bravado going on. So for me this thread is quite reassuring. My own take has left me alone- away from my parents, my friends, my children and my dp. It’s not easy but they all are very vulnerable and I’m hoping it is for the best. Dp is in hospital and I can tell you it’s going to whip thru it. If he could walk he’d discharge himself. He also won’t understand why I’m not visiting him. It’s heartbreaking but I can’t do anything about it.

I’m actually trying to limit the misery for me and mine.

@Hidingathome
Show them this plea to socially distance/isolate
The relatives saying goodbye to loved ones over the phone is how it will likely end for a lot of people if they don’t stop.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3854344-I-didnt-sign-up-for-this

I also need to know the difference between 50 people in the supermarket and someone seeing their sister in their own home?

Think about it!

The science talks about the transmission of Coronavirus taking place via an infected person's cough or sneeze and the aerosol effect of the droplets of human secretions landing on the target (person). The optimum proximity is closer than 2 metres.

So which would be more effective to ensure infection?

• Sitting in a warm living room, static not moving around and each person breathing the same air and the risk of someone carrying Covid-19 coughing or just being up close to someone. Approx time 3 hrs

Or

• 50 (your example) non-static people, moving around the aisles, and you purposefully getting items of shopping, not hanging around or stopping to chat and exchange pleasantries (remember this is a functional shop, not a social jolly) - Max time +/- 1 hr depending on size of shop.

Sunflower 20, I agree with you.

As someone who is completely isolating, online shopping is really important BUT no one should need more than one slot per week, and most could do much fewer (as I am).

But then... booked slot doesn’t guarantee you get what you ordered. So still need to be flexible and prepared to manage without some stuff. The “I can’t do without my...(insert food/drink here) is a problem.

And no one who is going out and about for anything non-essential should even consider booking a slot.

This is exactly what I am doing. I am not taking any chances and we are not socializing with anyone, even my parents (who are high risk).
I have had some friends think this is extreme, but this a New virus, meaning we don't know anything about it, so why would we take any chances? Some people don't seem to understand this, and feel safe because they think it's just a flu..

I'm planning that I probably won't see anyone for 12 weeks. Yes it's crap. No, I'm not going out for food I have a booked slot and after that will have to manage
No family or friends over, no socialising, no work (working from home)
I'm incredibly high risk and I'm not taking that chance yet my bloody dad has been out today and went for a drink last night "very quiet out and about" apparently. Yes dad, I wonder why, and you're 70 so STAY HOME

Inwondwe how many dumb arses will kill thier parents this weekend by still getting together for a nice family gathering, for Mothering Sunday??

I mean why miss seeing your mum when she's so special. I'm sure COVID-19 Will fuck off nicely just for the day!!

I'm getting so cross. So many people have "excuses" and class themselves as special cases as to why the advice cannot possibly apply to them and their special unique circumstances.

Bloke on radio was saying we are at war with this virus. It's an I visible enemy lurking amongst us and everywhere we go. Translate that to If we were at was and the energy was real soldiers wirh guns lurking amongst us would you still be popping out for Sunday lunch and nail appointments?

The difference is, I dread of being shot dead in the street, you or someone you've been in close proximity like your mum or your friends compromised family will just slowly suffocate to death a week/10 days or so after getting the first symptoms. The result is probanly going to be the same because you cant bank on getting a ventilator if it's needed!

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/19/younger-adults-are-large-percentage-coronavirus-hospitalizations-united-states-according-new-cdc-data/%3foutputType=amp

We need a lockdown full stop, follow what is going on in Italy and more recently France- people requiring a paper permit to go out and having to account for where they are going.

Yes it will curb everyone's freedom, but surely that is better than permanently curbing someone's freedom by dying of this virus!

The people who are still going out as normal are also the people with a trolley full of toilet roll and pasta. Selfish, entitled thick twats.

I feel like a bit of a flat earthier, but I think this situation is hyped to the extreme. Sure, if you have health conditions or elderly or in contact with these two groups, self isolation is a good policy.

But if you don’t have any of the symptoms and are not in the vulnerable categories I think life should go on as normal. If you start displaying symptoms, then yes go into lockdown but if not, stiff upper lip and carry on.

Here is an article to put into perspective all this scare lingering.

Maybe I’m being to lax against all the extremism. The answer probably lies someplace in the middle.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/how-many-will-die-of-coronavirus-in-the-uk-a-closer-look-at-the-numbers