Absolutely no going out or socialising?

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My understanding is basically no going out except to work, for food shopping or outdoor exercise away from others. Meaning I can't see my parents, can't go to a cafe and can't even visit same age friends (early 40s).

Other people think I'm being extreme but isn't this whats being asked of us for the next few weeks at least?

Exactly what I'm doing OP

But if you don’t have any of the symptoms and are not in the vulnerable categories I think life should go on as normal.

You must have missed the report on Monday saying 250,000 people would die if we carried on as normal.

Here you go nutty.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-51915302

nutty your article is out of date. The new figures came out more recently. That’s why the big change and the need for social distancing. Please don’t carry on as normal.

God people are idiots!

We absolutely much conform to social distancing. You cannot frickin Social distance in a restaurant- because some poor bugger has to serve you selfish tits!

nutty
The numbers are fine, until it’s your relative in the vulnerable group.
People still die without any under lying conditions. Have you seen the videos of the army taking bodies away in Italy?

I was trying to do a food shop yesterday and the number of people coughing as they were shopping, what the hell were they doing out.

The message is not getting through.

But if you don’t have any of the symptoms and are not in the vulnerable categories I think life should go on as normal. If you start displaying symptoms, then yes go into lockdown but if not, stiff upper lip and carry on.

The problem with this is, you can be infectious for up to 2 weeks before you start displaying symptoms, hence the 250,000 deaths if we carry on as normal.

People aren’t listening & being sensible, then the government needs to shut everything down

@Nuttyfellalovesnutella

Even if you were at absolutely zero risk to yourself, by reducing your own face-to-face social contacts to the absolute minimum for a number of months, there is a strong likelihood that you will save many lives.

Isn't that worth giving up a bit of fun for right now?

Just heard on J Vine show that Mr Weatherspoons isn't intending to close pubs yet as he doesn't feel it will make a difference. Quelle f'ing surprise there. Maybe he's thinking it comes to it he can roll up spare banknotes to make his own ventilator.

If we are still following the science, where is the science telling us that allowing the likes of Wetherspoons and Parkdean at this critical time is a good idea?

The current modelling , after they admitted the earlier modelling was dangerously wrong, assumes 75% compliance. Where are they getting this figure from?

We are long past the point where everything non-essential should have been forced to close and a very strong message put out about gatherings at home. I think a lot of people are in denial or just don’t get it.

So, if Mr Repulsive Wetherspoons tells us all to jump off a cliff, does that mean we should? No, so what people ought to do is not take his greedy word for it and shun the Spoons, stay safe at home. And consider never using them again.

People who continue to go down the pub will do that anyway, but if anyone on here is in any doubt, then the message remains the same, that it is selfish and dangerous to socialise and the moment so please stay away.

Anyone else can stand in the queue with Mr Shitface for the ventilator.

I bet he'd trample on his nan to get the first one.

I have been coughing due to post nasal drip (the neverending aftermath of a December cold) for months that won't go away due to pregnancy. I hate going to get groceries where people think I am being massively irresponsible and spreading illness. I'm sure there are others like me - please don't judge.

It is frustrating to communicate with or try and understand the thinking of those at a different stage of adjustment to an unimaginable novel event.

I think it is useful to ask 'what would you need to see before you really thought this was serious (in an existential way)?' This is why the drip drip slow increase of restrictions with its huge complexities and exceptions does not work.

The virus can only replicate by infecting a host. Spread can only occur when an infected host has contact with an uninfected potential host. Stay the fuck home.

Last day in work for DH and I today, I'll be working from home from Monday, and assuming DH works at local school and assuming he won't be needed in school due to the nature of his role.

Not planning any socialisation - DD will skype / facetime friends.

Am thinking we may drive to local national trust parkland but not meet anyone and keep our distance from other people, if any of us develop symptoms will obviously stay at home totally. Thankfully okay on the food front so shouldn't be any immediate need for supermarket trips

Plus there is the whole exponential growth thing that all human beings, maybe because we can't feel the exponential force of gravity, do not get.

Plus ICU consultants in the UK say from personnel experience that all the beds in their hospital are already full treating the people that were infected over two weeks ago, because this is when respiratory problems present, and that therefore there are no beds left to treat the people who were infected in the last two weeks (don't forget the doubling every five days) or the people that are being infected now and will need hospitalisation/ICU in the next couple of weeks.

But if you don’t have any of the symptoms and are not in the vulnerable categories I think life should go on as normal

This virus incubates with zero symptoms for up to one week. You plan to trot around, business as usual, potentially infecting every person you encounter and everyone they encounter? The NHS can barely cope with annual flu, but you are unconcerned about its ability to withstand a global pandemic? Some of the people on this thread are either trolling. Or staggeringly stupid.

Also, assume that you are infected and contagious, even if you feel well.

Assume that every time you leave your house, even despite best efforts, you will infect 2 other people. These 2 people will infect another 2 people (or more) each. By the time 100 people have been infected, assuming 1% mortality rate, you are personally responsible for the death of another human being.

I may be wrong but it is better to be safe than sorry.

Was out this morning to get supplies. I'm in NI, and from what I could see most here are carrying on as normal. Standing in a queue in home bargains, the woman behind was that close, she was coughing on my back. Went to local butcher, they have hand sanitizer left out just inside doorway. Sign says please all customers use on way in and way out. I did. As I waited to be served, 5 women came in, bare hands, no gloves. Not one bothered to use the sanitizer. All stood beside each other.

We have no hope of keeping the spread of this low, when a lot of people simply do not care.

Upmarket restaurant in my town just announced on fb that they're open for business as usual this weekend, including their cocktail bar. But it's OK, they are following the highest hygiene practises.... 🙄

I just give up. People just. Don't. Get it. The govt. has to order the closing of pubs, restaurants, cafes, leisure centres (myocal one is still open) etc. People keep saying, "well, it's still open so that means it's OK to keep going". It isn't. I'm very scared.

I have been coughing due to post nasal drip (the neverending aftermath of a December cold) for months that won't go away due to pregnancy. I hate going to get groceries where people think I am being massively irresponsible and spreading illness. I'm sure there are others like me - please don't judge

I'm the same, although mine is hayfever. I sound as though I'm coughing up a lung when I get going and I'm sure people think I'm ill but I'm not, this is how I am from now until around September!

Here's a more up to date article from the guardian nuttyfella. Things have changed a lot in a week www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/coronavirus-italy-lessons-countries-crisis-information

I've popped to sainsburys this morning to just make sure we have enough to get us through to next week and had to go to the dentist (essential appointment as needed an extraction) but apart from possibly a walk on sunday,maybe to the beach we will be in except to go to work or when we need a food shop. I am frontline nhs staff and dp is a delivery driver so we will both still be working regardless

No. Nope. Not right. Many people are getting this wrong, on BOTH sides of the line. Overreacting and underreacting.

I don't think the language of telling people they are "personally responsible" for deaths is helpful.