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MN yesterday: The schools must be closed! Today: but not for my child!

143 replies

saraclara · 19/03/2020 14:50

That's it.

Everyone deserves to have their child in school. Because everyone's job is vital. Suddenly there's no risk to MY CHILD being at school. Only everyone else's kid is a risk/at risk.

This place does my head in sometimes.

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QueenofmyPrinces · 20/03/2020 07:00

plus key guidance at the top about only sending children in if other avenues have been exhausted. So while the list of potential occupations is comprehensive, the circumstances under which they’d be eligible, is, in reality, probably not*

I doubt this will be monitored very well purely because of the workload involved to do so when the teachers and Government are already so stretched.

I think a lot of parents will still send their children to school, not only because they will struggle for childcare but also because they won’t want their child to be at a disadvantage.

I initially thought schools were opening as a form of childcare, almost like a holiday club, but the government paper used the term “a right to education” which implies to me the children who will be attending the schools will be receiving formal education whereas children who are at home rely on their parent’s ability or no education at all.

AriadnesFilament · 20/03/2020 07:09

You’d be surprised how many roles are classed as non-critical on business continuity plans....

SallyLovesCheese · 20/03/2020 08:58

Eligible for cheaper housing schemes? Yes I'm a key worker.

Teachers aren't considered key workers in terms of housing where I live. I expect nothing else for now being considered a key worker.

I fully expect to be working over the holidays and will do so as if it's any normal working period. I'm not even sure if I'll be paid for it. It's not just other professions who are stepping up.

I never thought I'd be working from home.

SallyLovesCheese · 20/03/2020 09:04

but the government paper used the term “a right to education” which implies to me the children who will be attending the schools will be receiving formal education

Could you link, please? I can't see where it says this, the webpage just talks about care.

It will be difficult for teachers to provide formal education if there's, say, two of them for 60 pupils, across 7 year groups, plenty of which have EHCPs, many unknown academically to the teachers.

Not to mention perhaps putting those at home at a disadvantage.

I assumed children in school will be doing the same set work as that sent to those at home, just doing it in school.

QueenofmyPrinces · 20/03/2020 10:26

sallylovescheese

The government paper I read said this:

“If your work is critical to the COVID-19 response, or you work in one of the critical sectors listed below, and you cannot keep your child safe at home then your children will be prioritised for education provision”

That implies to me that the children will be receiving education.

All the learning that children are being sent home with is via online learning, it is not actual work that is being sent home with them.

This means those children at home will have to rely on their parents to do the work with them in order for them to receive the same education as their peers in the classroom will be getting - and sadly, we all know that some parents may not be very forthcoming about wanting to make the effort. Also, for parents who are working from home it may be very difficult for them to apply the same level of teaching and time to their children than those who will still be in school with the teachers.

SallyLovesCheese · 20/03/2020 13:33

Most schools will have a skeleton staff. They may not be "teaching" in their usual school or their usual children. There may be 20 pupils in a class with one teacher who hardly knows them, 8 of those with EHCPs, across four different year groups, with vastly differing needs.

I don't think that much teaching is going to be done. We will be caring for the children so their parents can work. I imagine pupils will be working on the same work their at-home peers have. I really don't think you should worry those at home will be disadvantaged.

Everyexitisanentrance · 20/03/2020 14:55

We are not handing out chrome books or any laptops to students. We had a computer suite damaged today so we will not be opening any IT rooms.

JANEG70 · 20/03/2020 15:04

"We feel it is important to inform you that schools will not be providing the National Curriculum in these circumstances – this has been directed by the government. Therefore, children who are staying at home and accessing our Home Learning provision will not be disadvantaged. We will continue to update our Home Learning resource over the next few weeks " This was in a letter from my child's school. I am a teacher and we have been told we will not be teaching but providing childcare.

ScarlettBlaize · 20/03/2020 17:29

@QueenofmyPrinces

This means those children at home will have to rely on their parents to do the work with them in order for them to receive the same education as their peers in the classroom will be getting - and sadly, we all know that some parents may not be very forthcoming about wanting to make the effort. Also, for parents who are working from home it may be very difficult for them to apply the same level of teaching and time to their children than those who will still be in school with the teachers.

I genuinely can't get my head around the selfishness and shortsightedness of some people.

The children in schools will be there because their parents are doing the essential and OFTEN LIFE-THREATENING work needed to keep the country going through this unprecedented crisis.

Thousands of people will lose jobs, homes, loved ones. The world is at a standstill. Our health system is already beyond capacity. There is no food in the shops

And you're moaning because you think the children whose parents are risking their lives are 'advantaged'?

Disgusting.

And I say that as a parent with two young children at home whose work has hugely suffered and will continue to do so as a result of this situation.

Count yourself lucky if this is all you are worrying about right now. sickening attitude.

Everyexitisanentrance · 20/03/2020 18:07

Everyone is stressed. We are all doing our best to provide support where we can. The selfishness and self entitlement of some is horrendous and they are the ones with fully stock piled cupboard at home. Key workers are at disadvantaged

tinytemper66 · 20/03/2020 18:36

We won't be teaching the children that will be in front of us but babysitting them. They will have the work set by their classroom teacher and be provided with hot food but the curriculum is suspended

Marieo · 20/03/2020 18:40

I know, it's ridiculous. I would say it's funny, but it's not really. At the moment key workers are having a crap time, I bet they would prefer to be at home safely with their children, rather than them being lumbered in school everyday. I feel for the teachers as well, and having people moan because their little darlings can't go in is infuriating. I am so glad vulnerable children are included though, and lunches provided for those at home but who need them.

CouldBeOuting · 20/03/2020 19:21

I work in school. The children will be getting “childcare” not an education. I am a school administrator not a teacher. I am a key worker according to the government list. The shops are open in the morning for elderly and what the supermarket call “key workers” which is NHS or emergency staff only as far as they are concerned. I worked today from 7.30 until 5.... there was nothing left in the shop when I finished work......

WaterOffADucksCrack · 20/03/2020 21:59

isn't exactly why the government is offering childcare? yes but people are whinging about others sending their kids in. I got told today "people like you sending their kids to school are the reason why others will die". I work in a care home and my partner is a paramedic.

TimeforanotherChange · 20/03/2020 22:12

My son came home today and told me one of his friends is going to be going into school, as his mum is a key worker.

My son and his friend are 15...(no issues, or vulnerabilities btw). That is piss taking in my eyes. Mum just doesn't want to leave a teenager at home to play XBox all day.

BacklashStarts · 20/03/2020 22:15

I went the other way, OP. I was indifferent to the schools closing and now they have I’d like to keep the kids off but I’ve been told I’m a key worker and if the schools will take the kids I have to take that option - employer has been clear I get no flexibility cause kids can go to school.

BacklashStarts · 20/03/2020 22:15

We’re both key workers

nellodee · 20/03/2020 22:21

I am a teacher. My husband is also a key worker. We have chosen for him to forego his income and stay home with the children. I would not send my children in to the schools I will be manning for a million pounds. They will be catching everything that every other child has in there. 20% of all health care workers in Lombardy are already infected. The same will be true of ours. They will go home, infect their families. These asymptomatic children will go into schools and infect all the children in those settings. They will then go home and infect all the other key workers - the shop workers, the delivery workers, the firemen.

It's a horrible idea.

Don't use it, unless you have to.

I will be taking very extreme precautions to avoid bringing anything home to my family and am even considering not coming home to my family at all.

For six months.

This is how strongly I feel that the service I am manning is a horrible, horrible, idea.

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