MN yesterday: The schools must be closed! Today: but not for my child!

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That's it.

Everyone deserves to have their child in school. Because everyone's job is vital. Suddenly there's no risk to MY CHILD being at school. Only everyone else's kid is a risk/at risk.

This place does my head in sometimes.

I think the government are doing the right thing. Schools should close, but for some key roles, someone needs to look after the children, so having schools open and a skeleton staff for this is ideal

MrsHusky if school refusal is a problem it sounds like the school is not meeting his needs anyway and the EHCP needs reviewing.

I’m glad schools have now closed. Dd2 has been offered to go back in as she has a ehcp, I’m also a care worker but I have decided not to send her. I think if your child can be kept home then they need to be, the less that are at school the less likely your family will be struck down with the virus.

Everyone thinks their jobs important, of course most jobs are or they wouldn’t exist but right now there are some jobs more important than others.

I think it’s a complete disgrace that some private nurseries are deciding to stay open. Sticking two fingers up at the gov advice indeed!

Surely they will be forced to close soon?

Ellie, he's fine now, not missed a day since he started at this specialist placement :)

But it was a serious past issue in his previous school, and we do still always struggle to get him motivated on the first day back after half terms and holidays.

Potentially with up to 5 months off school, it does concern me, and I have already raised it with them when his school called to ask if I wanted them to find provision for him, and they've already said they'd help us with that if it did turn out to be an issue.. they're an excellent school!

My child is at an SEN school, so all children have ECHPs & therefore currently are staying open, but they're already struggling because of dwindling staff numbers. I want to take my child out of school because he knows his mainstream siblings won't be at school & every day is a battle to get him to school at the best of times. School have made it clear it will be classed as authorised absence, but the LA won't confirm if they will pay his taxi providers on their contract if he doesn't go in until school officially shut & if we don't send him the taxi will withdraw from the contract. So we're currently stuck between a rock & a hard place. I'm classed as a key worker, my son meets the criteria for on-going provision, but I can & will work around it. I feel guilty that any decision I make doesn't work. Either I keep him in school & I put unnecessary pressure on staff to try & keep the resource going & he'll probably refuse anyway, but I keep his taxi company relatively happy & know they'll get paid something or I don't send him & the taxi withdraw their services & my son is unable to attend school for the foreseeable future because it's taken 2 years since a 2 year school refusal to work up to an uneasy status quo with any provider.
Sorry that was a long essay, but I guess it shows the implications of all of this affect everything. Some of us will be able to be inconvenienced & pick up where we left off, but many of us won't. I'm honestly less scared of the virus itself than the long-term repercussions. I'm very much a person that thinks of the social consequences of things, but it's hard to not be concerned about the personal consequences, however selfish that may seem

My school has just emailed to say all staff are expected to come to school and work from Monday ‘as normal’ and insist on staff working the Easter Holidays (albeit paid) so assume lots of keyworker children have been signed up.

What a head expects and gets are different things. Staff work hard during lessons and completing assessments. You are entitled to time off! Do not make yourself ill.

Ok I'll take my children out of school and just shut down my care facility and leave vulnerable elderly people, many with dementia, to care for themselves because I'd bet my right arm 90% of their families still wouldn't come!

And fwiw I'd rather keep the children at home and safe but it isn't an option for me.

I think it’s a complete disgrace that some private nurseries are deciding to stay open

when theses idiots run out of staff who can get out of bed, they'll have to close.

I'll take my children out of school and just shut down my care facility

isn't exactly why the government is offering childcare?

OP unless you can point to the exact same posters making hypocritical remarks then YABU.

MN is not a hive mind. I hate OPs like yours, written by posters who think they’re going against the grain like some sort of extra clever person

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Absolutely

My school is not asking for proof and has said 1
parent is a key worker with VC kids that’s 250+ kids which is bigger than my dds entire school which is closed. Makes zero sense!
I am expected to work as normal and through the Easter holidays whilst the school directly opposite run by the same LA staff are on a rota and Easter is voluntary- it’s all such a mess.

A lot of the fuss seems to be coming from teachers themselves. They seem to think they should work from home....bet they won't expect the same fir the NHS staff if they get sick or even their supermarket staff. I've found some (of course not all) teachers opposed to actually teaching

Here it comes - courtesy of @pinkprosseco - the regular staff kicking! thanks

I think a lot of the ‘fuss’ is that we have been put in an incredibly difficult position with no clarity being told that we need to isolate/social distance unless you are in education when having 100s of kids together is fine. 250+ kids are expected in my school on Monday and if they classify FSM kids as VC 500. My dd has an autoimmune condition she can’t be in school because she higher risk but I can still interact with 100s of kids and bring that home with me.
No teachers I know are adverse to teaching they are frightened that they are risking their health and their own families.
Realistically they are being asked to put looking after other people ahead of looking after their own families which is a huge ask. When I went into eduction work I never once thought I would be in this position it’s so unprecedented so Maybe anxious about it all. I don’t think it’s fair to say teachers are fussing they are expressing worries and concerns. I think EVERYONE who can work from home should be working from home. In my DH case as a teacher that is possible for part of the week as he can plan and mark from home and then work on the rota system I mentioned support other key workers by providing childcare for their children.
One of my best friends is a senior nurse community based and she said that she felt that I was more at risk then she was. As she was doing very few physical appointments and was seeing maybe a dozen people a day not 500 like we could potentially do.

Don't mention it.
I'm just saying, you're either key workers or you're not. Eligible for cheaper housing schemes? Yes I'm a key worker. Need to turn up for work in a crisis? No I'm working from home I'm not a key worker, that's j the NHS staff.Just saying....

I have never ever ever had any advantage for working in education outside of my general pay and conditions. No freebies, no discounts nothing. In fact what I am seeing a lot of now is free meal and drinks etc for NHS workers. Which btw is totally fine my best friends and sister are NHS so I don’t begrudge anyone anything. I haven’t seen anything to other key workers. (Not that I think there should be) but actually my experience is that education staff often get overlooked as public servant until now when we are expected to just get on board.

My school has just emailed to say all staff are expected to come to school and work from Monday ‘as normal’ and insist on staff working the Easter Holidays (albeit paid) so assume lots of keyworker children have been signed up.

Our county have said that we are all due to come in from Monday too. No mention yet of how covering these staff will look like over the Easter holidays - are they paying those teachers extra for the extra hours they will be now required to work or given TOIL (not difficult to achieve if most children aren't in).

I'm glad we're closed to pupils due to my own concerns for my health. I've not had tight advice from my gp regarding distancing with my not-mild (but not massively severe asthma) and my HT is pretty much now saying that as we aren't a hub school I'll be fine to keep going in as there will be no pupils in. When I next see my doctor I'm going to ask about this but I will also at that point have an idea of what it will look like to be working in a not-open school and not being put into the hub school due to my health. It may mean very little contact and be fine.

The risk of the virus is significant and it is not mild in all cases.
I’m baffled as to why people want to send their kids when they don’t absolutely need to.

I am expected to work as normal and through the Easter holidays whilst the school directly opposite run by the same LA staff are on a rota and Easter is voluntary- it’s all such a mess.

If we are not at the same school then it is interesting to know you have also been told this. Sending a solidarity virtual fist bump. Kinda shuts those recent posts down that imply teachers aren’t going to be doing any work.

I’ve seen the Government's list this morning if who is considered a critical worker. It’s very comprehensive so I reckon they may as well have just left the schools open because I think there’s still going to be a lot of children in them.

Comprehensive, yes, but with some fairly important caveats around dependencies on things business continuity plans, and public service broadcasting, for example, plus key guidance at the top about only sending children in if other avenues have been exhausted.

So while the list of potential occupations is comprehensive, the circumstances under which they’d be eligible, is, in reality, probably not.