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Why do teachers still have jobs?

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StrangeTimes · 19/03/2020 08:06

So my husband has just lost his job from next week. He's a coach driver. My best mate has lost her job from this week, she used to work in a cinema. I have many friends now out of work and desperately trying to get jobs in supermarkets.

However teachers will not be working now for many months, so how come they're not being made redundant?

I'm not being goady I genuinely want to know. I'm glad they are still being paid, I'd hate for them to be in our position. But why?

Are other jobs "safe" like this too?

OP posts:
copperheart · 20/03/2020 06:25

I am hoping my dc's Year 12 teachers are continuing to work and support my kids - the Year 13''s might have escaped their exams in light of this crisis but the Year 12's (and Year 10's) will still have to sit the full exam next year, after missing what looks like a whole term of teaching!

Poetryinaction · 20/03/2020 06:52

Well the list is out. As a teacher I must keep going in. And setting remote work. And looking after my own kids at home. And paying full nursery fees.

LolaSmiles · 20/03/2020 08:43

Well the list is out. As a teacher I must keep going in. And setting remote work. And looking after my own kids at home. And paying full nursery fees
But the real question is 'why do you still have a job?'
Grin

Though when you look at the list of key workers, that's actually a huge number of people.

Pipanchew2 · 20/03/2020 08:56

@StrangeTimes your post is insensitive: perhaps you should’ve fact checked before you said anything. In these times we need to be kind and reunited not divisive.
My school is opening weekends and school holidays to ensure nhs staff have childcare. Staff are working a 5 day rota across a full week to ensure we can provide this. Many colleagues are already sick and many more will be. Many school staff are on the frontline and like health staff have suffered from cuts and poor pay for the last ten years but they are stepping up when asked. Please support them, the least you can do is keep unhelpful comments to yourself.

xsquared · 20/03/2020 09:01

Because we will still be working, whether that is remotely or on the premises. As far as our college is concerned, we still have to go in.

It's awful what is happening to a lot of people job wise but don't take it out on teachers. You sound bitter.

fedup21 · 20/03/2020 09:06

My school is opening weekends and school holidays to ensure nhs staff have childcare.

Have you just put staff on a rota for the weekends? What hours are you covering-are you also covering so that nhs staff can work nights?

BelleharePenguin09 · 20/03/2020 09:14

Have you just put staff on a rota for the weekends? What hours are you covering-are you also covering so that nhs staff can work nights?

This is pathetic.

Saoirse7 · 20/03/2020 09:19

About time we stopped replying to this thread, the goady, trolling OP hasn't cone back.

Teachers and all other school staff, know your worth. ❤️Biscuit

Pipanchew2 · 20/03/2020 09:37

@fedup21 not nights. Weekends and holidays is all we’ve been asked for at the moment. Who knows if we are asked to do more we’ll probably find a way.
I don’t know but I’m assuming NHS Rita’s are possibly trying to keep staff with kids off night shifts if they have no childcare?

Pipanchew2 · 20/03/2020 09:38

*rotas

Hyrana · 20/03/2020 09:50

I don't often post but I am pissed about this OP. My daughter is a teacher. When I am in Scotland (I have PVG) I volunteer at my daughters school. She and most of her colleagues work really hard to provide a fantastic learning environment.
Today she was in work before 6am to get packs and everything ready. She will not be kicking back, also she is doing an MA which should help her understand your child better. FFS she will be working and worrying about the children who wont get care and attention as will I. So take your nasty, nasty views about teachers and stick it up yer arse!

Xenia · 20/03/2020 09:54

We just need very clear guidance for the state about the hours teachers should be working when working at home eg 5 hours of face to face skype teaching a day if they are not at the school minding children of other teachers, nurses etc or whatever so everyone knows where they stand.

Clavinova · 20/03/2020 10:08

the teachers are working from home, setting work and calling the dc at home every couple of days. secondary have lessons via a video app.

In which case why can't the children of key workers access this learning from their 'temporary' schools? Apparently these children are only being provided with childcare - is this correct? Surely teachers should be supervising online access to work their regular teachers have prepared? On a rota with craft/PE etc. if there are more children than computers.

Cornettoninja · 20/03/2020 10:13

Ffs, do you really think that picking over teachers exact roles is at the top of anyone’s agenda right now?

Solutions like Skype and online learning will come in time but right this minute the whole country and its infrastructure has been thrown into chaos. The priority is sorting out somewhere for key workers to send their kids so they can carry on if they’re not ill themselves.

Education can be caught up on and everyone is missing the same deadlines. There are solutions that can be implemented later it’s not a now or never situation.

Xenia · 20/03/2020 10:17

I suspect all of us can agree that teachers should be paid when they are working. We will need some system to check the work they are doing just like we do with all remote workers in the UK and I am sure the heads of schools can set up that kind of system and probably some will need to work over the Easter holiday if 10% of children will be in school needing to be looked after although even that is an interesting issue as presumably the children of nurses and doctors would normally pay someone to mind the children over Easter so will hey no longer need to do so as the school will give them free childcare over Easter?

Clavinova · 20/03/2020 10:20

Education can be caught up on and everyone is missing the same deadlines.

Apparently not though if some teachers are claiming this;
"the teachers are working from home, setting work and calling the dc at home every couple of days. secondary have lessons via a video app."

My dcs' private school is providing all of this and more next week.

theclangersbigplan · 20/03/2020 10:21

Well, this is just about the stupidest OP I've ever read.

Cornettoninja · 20/03/2020 10:23

And that’s really good but it’s clearly been set up within the resources of individual schools.

Calling for stringent practices and checks seems wildly mistimed and inappropriate right now.

KittyMcKitty · 20/03/2020 10:25

My children are years 10 & 12 and I have nothing but respect for their teachers - lessons are happening in real time, there’s video conferencing and all sorts.

BelleharePenguin09 · 20/03/2020 10:27

We will need some system to check the work they are doing just like we do with all remote workers in the UK and I am sure the heads of schools can set up that kind of system and probably some will need to work over the Easter holiday if 10% of children will be in school needing to be looked after although even that is an interesting issue as presumably the children of nurses and doctors would normally pay someone to mind the children over Easter so will hey no longer need to do so as the school will give them free childcare over Easter?

Good god. That is actually just ONE SENTENCE. Paragraphing requires work, too. 😆
You need to work in your punctuation.

BelleharePenguin09 · 20/03/2020 10:28

on your

BelleharePenguin09 · 20/03/2020 10:28

Maybe that’s what sometimes happens to someone in rant mode.

KittyMcKitty · 20/03/2020 10:28

^ just to stress this is a state school. They have been issued with a timetable, there are tutor times, assemblies - they are trying to sort out how to do a virtual choir. Expensive pieces of school equipment have been sent home to pupils who don’t have access to them. No stone has been left unturned.

fedup21 · 20/03/2020 10:36

We will need some system to check the work they are doing just like we do with all remote workers in the UK

Do you mean ‘checking’ like Ofsted?!

SallyLovesCheese · 20/03/2020 10:48

In which case why can't the children of key workers access this learning from their 'temporary' schools? Apparently these children are only being provided with childcare - is this correct? Surely teachers should be supervising online access to work their regular teachers have prepared? On a rota with craft/PE etc. if there are more children than computers.

I'm fully anticipating this is what I'll be doing, some supervision of completing set work mixed in with other "lessons". Plus helping to create further packs of work and online resources for all pupils, at home or school, after the current ones run out.