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Why do teachers still have jobs?

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StrangeTimes · 19/03/2020 08:06

So my husband has just lost his job from next week. He's a coach driver. My best mate has lost her job from this week, she used to work in a cinema. I have many friends now out of work and desperately trying to get jobs in supermarkets.

However teachers will not be working now for many months, so how come they're not being made redundant?

I'm not being goady I genuinely want to know. I'm glad they are still being paid, I'd hate for them to be in our position. But why?

Are other jobs "safe" like this too?

OP posts:
angell84 · 19/03/2020 23:08

*past.

I truly think that all learning can be done by a student, by himself at home.

How does going to uni for four years make anyone know a subject better than the student - who can learn it fully from online sources himself at home.

TwistinMyMelon · 19/03/2020 23:10

So when this ends you would prefer the children can't access Education because their teachers have been laid off?! 🤷🏻‍♀️

TheMistressQuickly · 19/03/2020 23:11

We will be the villains in this; always are!

Meanwhile we will continue to work hard, whether it be from home or ‘childminding’ other people’s kids whilst we ship ours off to school to catch and spread more germs.

I could say more as I’m so angry right now but I won’t!!!

angell84 · 19/03/2020 23:11

@TwistinMyMelon maybe home school will come in full time after this?

copperheart · 19/03/2020 23:14

Sorry about your dh’s job - it must be absolutely gutting, I really feel for all those people who have lost their jobs. Those of us who remain in paid employment should feel very lucky that it hasn’t hit us and have a bit of compassion for the people who are left without a job through no fault of their own.

Cofused12273625 · 19/03/2020 23:16

I’ve still got to go in next week. I won’t be at home and we have 80 children minimum who will need looking after for the foreseeable future so a lot will need to work. I’ve been told I have to work over Easter too which is usually a holiday. This is while sending my own child to their own school to be looked after by another Teacher. Not a goady post? Of course it isn’t

Beachrules · 19/03/2020 23:26

I am a teaching assistant in a school. I will be in as normal from next week as will the teachers, office staff, cleaners, lunchtime supervisors, cooks, wrap around care staff, janitor. We will be providing care for the children of key workers and vulnerable children. We will be unable to chose to self isolate. We will be planning, marking, assessing, writing reports, supporting parents, posting work online. We will even be cleaning the school, painting, organising, gardening. We will work through the Easter holidays and potentially the Summer ones too, for many of us without pay. So to answer your query, yes I do think teachers should still have jobs.

OverTheRainbowLiesOz · 19/03/2020 23:29

Daughter up until midnight each night writing online lessons. In a deprived school so will probably be going in to teach anyway / combined with online for those kids not coming in. I've watched her schedule and it is punishing.

MissEliza · 19/03/2020 23:52

I haven't RTFT but your Op has really wound me up. Unfortunately in life some people's jobs are more vulnerable than others. It's swings and roundabouts. I work in a school and we have been very stressed in the last couple of weeks because we know parents happily drop off sick kids leaving us and other pupils vulnerable. Before Christmas our school was wiped out by the noravirus. As a result we are all very worried that Covid 19 could do the same. We worry about passing it to vulnerable family members. None of the people whose jobs you mentioned have that risk. Please don't act like we have it easy. I will now hide this thread as I don't want to hear any bleating from people who haven't had to send home a quarter of a class home with Covid 19 symptoms and worry they may bring those germs back to their loved ones.

Tinydancer123 · 19/03/2020 23:53

Ignorance .
As a teacher I am expected and will step up to still go to work and care for the most vulnerable children in our country. I will continue to support those workers that are frontline . I continue to respond to all the emails and plan lessons whilst I am isolated with poorly children. I will leave my young children.. because I am a teacher and I love my job.
Last night I put the pieces back together of 22 year 11 students who are like children to me , that I have fed , that I have nurtured , that I along with a nation of dedication teachers like me have shaped their future .... and you think I/ we shoud be made reduandant ??? The news that children who are vulnerable but are not on lists terrifies me ..... you need to get an education in our role.

MissEliza · 20/03/2020 00:03

@Tinydancer123 well said

Rollinghillside · 20/03/2020 00:05

Not only am I working as a teacher in self isolation, but there are some bloody amazing secondary kids still online right now having a go at some of the tasks and sharing useful websites with each other.

I can see them. They're doing it right now in the chat channel, despite having been told to go to bed.

Kids are freaking amazing.

Thesispieces · 20/03/2020 00:10

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SleepingStandingUp · 20/03/2020 00:20

I'm not a teacher but surely, even IF teachers were Netflix and chilling their way through Corona cos all the kids are home (clearly not the case), teachers still have jobs because they're qualified professionals who are hard to replace at a moments notice. Much easier to replace a coach driver or cinema staff. Also if the world gets rejigged, we will still need tea hers, we don't need cinemas and coach staff - they're luxury bonuses

SallyLovesCheese · 20/03/2020 00:54

I know that alot of people's problems with teachers is that:
They think they are better than everyone else
They think they are more educated than anyone else.

Shouldn't this read "I know that a lot of people's problems with teachers is that there are a few teachers who think they're better than everyone else and more educated"?

Once again, someone making sweeping generalisations. And worse, by someone who used to be a teacher themself!

Do you include yourself in this when you say teachers think they're better than everyone? Is that what you thought when you were a teacher? Is that what you're basing your totally unfounded accusations on? Because I can't see why else you'd say we're ALL like this.

tallah · 20/03/2020 03:39

But yes teachers are working, my friend is teaching form her home and busy every day. Everyone's situation is different, it's shit that your husband and friends lost jobs but totally different kettle of fish

Topseyt · 20/03/2020 03:50

The list of essential key-workers ( whose children schools will be caring for) has been published.

It is very wide ranging. Some schools will be at least as full as before the "closure" at this rate. Teachers are hardly going to be going on an extended holiday.

Casino218 · 20/03/2020 04:17

My husband is a teacher in a pupil referral unit. He's still got to work because vulnerable kids have to still be taught. He also thinks he has to work right through Easter. Have you seen the long list of key workers that can still send their kids to school? So your post is inaccurate isn't it?

Coyoacan · 20/03/2020 04:37

I really hope all the people that are losing their jobs are getting all their statutory benefits.

OtherVoicesOtherRooms · 20/03/2020 04:49

Got to get up and go to work in a few hours OP. In a school.
Will be there next week and the week after too.
Possibly over the Easter break too.
You want to lay me off?

midnightstar66 · 20/03/2020 05:26

Teachers will absolutely still be working, our dc are being sent new work from home assignments every week day and teachers are available to contact Monday- Friday 9-3. Also do you want there to be no teachers when your school reopens?

Merlotmum85 · 20/03/2020 05:58

It's apparently 'business as usual' for us as we'll be in every day - with the addition of also setting work and maintaining a google classroom for those students who won't be in. And over Easter too. So that's why we haven't lost our jobs.

Cherrysherbet · 20/03/2020 06:02

I appreciate everything Teacher's do, and I would expect them to be paid. What a nasty post.

Megan2018 · 20/03/2020 06:12

I’m on mat leave from a senior management (non teaching) role in HE-I don’t expect to lose my job in the short term. I’m not public sector but allied to it (local government pension scheme).

Obviously this will have a huge impact on HE but it’s unlikely to alter income in the short term, unlike businesses that are seeing an immediate change to cash flow.

I don’t take it for granted that my job is safe, there good be medium-long term impacts that change this. But for now it’s unlikely to change. I appreciate that those in private sector will have a different outcome.

woodencoffeetable · 20/03/2020 06:20

were I am primary schools have been open for childcare for essential workers for some time. (2 staff at a time for 10 hours a day for a horde of kids).
the teachers are working from home, setting work and calling the dc at home every couple of days. secondary have lessons via a video app.