Why do teachers still have jobs?

[StrangeTimes]

So my husband has just lost his job from next week. He's a coach driver. My best mate has lost her job from this week, she used to work in a cinema. I have many friends now out of work and desperately trying to get jobs in supermarkets.

However teachers will not be working now for many months, so how come they're not being made redundant?

I'm not being goady I genuinely want to know. I'm glad they are still being paid, I'd hate for them to be in our position. But why?

Are other jobs "safe" like this too?

[OhCaptain]

No offends to your DH but he drives a coach. When this is over, there’ll be someone else who can drive a coach.

Not everyone is qualified to teach. And certainly not everyone can teach.

Besides, our teachers did an incredible job here putting together the curriculums for parents. And they are still working.

But apart from all that are you really saying if a cinema worker loses her job then so should the educators???

[LolaSmiles]

Nice to know a time of national crisis MN still has its core of "someone else has something work related I don't, therefore nobody should".

Schools are remaining opening on skeleton staff, teachers are still setting and marking work, and then when all this is over have to pick up courses where half the students have done the remote learning properly and half haven't.

What next "why schools should cancel the summer holidays because teachers have had their holidays now and we are fed up with looking after our own kids"?

[Happyhusband]

Of course teachers Swan in at 0900, spend 6 hours entertaining the ill mannered results of inbred parents' sexual incontinence then fuck off home laughing at the OP and her mates while discussing how to spend their lavish holiday entitlement.

[Squigean]

If your husband could drive a virtual coach he'd still have a job. Unfortunately there's no such thing as it wouldn't actually do the job needed.

Teachers can, and will, give lessons online (using virtual classes as Google Classroom). They still have a job they can do.

This is how my children have been learning since Friday.

[Soontobe60]

Actually, many places are now looking for drivers, to do essential deliveries for people in self isolation. I've seen 5 ads this morning on my Facebook feed about this. I also believe the NHS is looking to take on people who have been laid off to cover essential roles during the crisis.

[fedup21]

However teachers will not be working now for many months

I honestly can’t imagine knowing so little about something and then deciding that I will post such a petty, horrible post about it!?

[toomuchsplother]

Is there any circumstance in the world that people will not exploit to have a go at teachers!!! FFS Honestly. OP I am really sorry for your husband but it isn't the fault of teachers. We will still be working albeit remotely and some of us are clearly going to be remaining in school to provide support for key workers .
I am currently self isolating due to the family having symptoms and I have worked solidly from 7.00 am to 6pm for the last two days to set up online work etc.
I am also so bloody frustrated that I can't get in to school at the moment to help my colleagues.

[OhCaptain]

I think what the op is asking is why are some companies letting people go rather than keeping their jobs open to come back to?
Which I can see her point.
But teachers will still be working.

Imagine when the schools reopened having to rehire multiple thousands of teachers.

[Mrskeats]

Horrible post of the week.
I am a teacher and am working online.
That ok op?

[Sirzy]

Do you think it’s going to be easy for the teacher remotely supporting all their pupils making sure they don’t fall too far behind in this time? Planning work for students without knowing who will do it how much they will understand? How much support they will get?

[ineedaholidaynow]

Teachers will still be working. Bet many of them were working last night to ensure things will be in place Monday morning for the new world we will be living in. Children are going to be set work everyday, so planning, marking, assessing will still take place. If children think they are on one long holiday for the next few months they are sadly mistaken.

[greathat]

Er not working! Most are still currently expected to be in school on Monday! To look after kids of key workers. I am high risk so self isolating but still setting work for all my classes. Of all the ducking stupid things to say!

[Marieo]

There's already a retention crisis, they have been leaving in droves before any of this happened, and schools have been struggling along with fewer staff than is ideal. Let's sack them all, and when schools reopen let the children teach themselves. I'm honestly shocked at this attitude. It's sad anyone has lost their job, but teaching is an essential job, you can just lay them off through no fault of their own and expect them to happily waltz back in when needed. Ffs. Also they will be doing just as much, if not more work than usual.

[PurpleDaisies]

Bet many of them were working last night to ensure things will be in place Monday morning for the new world we will be living in.
We’re still trying to get to the end of the week. It’s incredibly stressful with all the cover for colleagues who are off.

[OhCaptain]

Even IF they weren’t continuing to work, they get well and truly shat upon from all angles for their “extended holidays” so if they were having an extra few weeks (which they’re NOT) it would be bloody well earned, IMO.

[greathat]

Fucking dammit! And yes schools are staying open during the holidays so there's not even a fucking break from the insanity

[Flora20]

Presuming this is a joke but as a teacher feel I should point out that a) we're still going to be working, and people generally accept that educating your children is quite a good thing; b) we're professionals who have a public duty to do whatever we can to help during an international crisis and c) what do you think is going to happen when the schools reopen?

It's terrible that people are losing jobs but the natural response shouldn't be to wish that everyone else does too.

[BonnesVacances]

As well as preparing resources and work plans for their students to follow until school reopens, DH is also organising his department to prepare for September and next academic year. They are going to use this non-contact time to plan schemes of work and all the other essential tasks that they wish they had more time to focus on instead of chasing their tails.

[StrangeTimes]

And what point did I say I hoped people would lose their jobs. Typical Mnet reading what they want into a thread. Getting angry just for the sake of it!

Can I say again, I do not want anyone to have to face what we're facing!!

And this thread shows the contempt people have for menial jobs. Easily replaced

Yes it's dead easy learning to drive a bus and have the responsibility of scores of schoolchildren's lives when driving. But hey they're easily replaced.

Thank you to all the teachers who have answered my query genuinely. I really didn't know you were still working.

[Graft]

You'd love me, OP.

All my work's been cancelled for the foreseeable but I'm at home on full pay, and my employer has guaranteed no lay-offs.

This is because my skills are rarer and more valuable than a coach-driver's.

Regards, an ex-teacher.

[Imok]

I'm a TA. It had already been made clear to us that, in the event of closure, we would be expected to work from home. There are online training modules to complete, planning for interventions, as well as face to face cpd which can be done using Skype or zoom etc. Teachers also have planning work to do. After yesterday's announcement, I reckon we will also be expected to be in school, probably on a rota, to help provide cover for the children who will still be coming to school.
I am sorry for people whose jobs will be lost, but please don't perpetuate the MN myth that teachers are don't earn their salary - just because you cantysee all the work they do, doesn't mean they are not doing it.

[diddl]

I see your point also, Op-it's the knock on effect.

My husband is currenty wfh.

But some businesses that his company deals with are on shutdown.

Their workers are getting paid.

My husband's company still needs the goods that are no longer being provided.

So they go elsewhere or go under.

The company that has closed loses a contract...

[fedup21]

really didn't know you were still working

But you didn’t think to maybe check before writing that.

Had you written, ‘Will teachers be working from now on?’ you would have got very different answers than you did.

You assumed they wouldn’t be (without checking) which you clearly feel isn’t fair when your husband and friend are in a tough situation.

[differentnameforthis]

Teachers at my dd's school are offering online programs via skype and zoom, hence, still educating our children.

We are in Australia and schools are not closed yet, we are prepping for it. Most teachers are still worried that the children get what they need.

[MitziK]

The schools' funding is already there. They have the money for the staff wages in advance.

If your husband's firm had all the money for the year in advance and wasn't refunding anything, they'd be in a position to pay his salary, too.