What will lockdown actually entail?

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We can't really go out now so what will be the difference when / if we get to lockdown?
Can we still go shopping? Walks etc?

My kids haven't left the house or garden since Friday afternoon.

How come you can't go for a walk @BirdandSparrow ? If no one around !
At least we can do that , I don't understand why people would support a complete lockdown can you imagine not leaving the house for weeks except to go to the shop or work .

Les sorties indispensables à l’équilibre des enfants, le sport et l’activité physique individuels dans les espaces ouverts, sont
autorisés à proximité du domicile, dans le respect des gestes barrière et en évitant
tout rassemblement.

The above is from the FAQs of the government website. It basically says that going out in open spaces close to our homes to get some exercise is OK but there can be no gatherings of people and we must socially distance.

Where it says "l’activité physique individuels" it doesn't mean that we can only go out individually, it means no team sports or gatherings / groups / club meetings.

I also checked the fine and it is 135 euros if you break the rules.

My parents were on lockdown in Spain on holiday. Only allowed out to Supermarket or pharmacy one at a time & had to return to hotel immediately. They are now home & have to self isolate for 2 weeks which to me means not leaving the house at all or having direct contact with people I.e. neighbours or deliveries. After that they are fine to do as we are doing now with social distancing which I am doing in the form of only going out for food shopping & spending time with in laws at our house or theirs.

I am under the impression that total lockdown would make food shopping more strict & there would be no visits with anyone allowed. I am hoping walks & time in the garden is allowed like it is now but not sure that will be the case - certainly walks were/are banned in Spain at the minute

When your cases go from under 600 to over 14000 in 10 days, you start to see why lockdown has to happen.

The conditions are strict because otherwise people take the piss. At the start, the parks were rammed in Madrid with people "out for a run, but practicing social distancing". As they say here "este virus lo paramos si te quedas en casa" we can stop this virus if you stay at home.

The fewer contacts we have, the lower the rate of transmission. So we have to stay in except when strictly necessary.

Most transmission is from people who are infected but not symptomatic.

It seems harsh to you now. When your cases start rising exponentially you will understand.

Shit begins to get real.

'The document' sounds like George Orwell beauracratic nonsense. It serves no purpose. Getting daily access to a printer, pc, internet or smartphone if you don't have one is bullshit. If there's only one thing that society should learn from the Coronavirus, it's to drop the unnecessary bullshit, because we can't take anything for granted. Our jobs, homes, health and loved ones could disappear in the space of months.

Lock down or not I have to go to work
Social care in supported housing.

Glad you are allowed to walk a dog. We are supposed to be picking up a rescue dog on Friday. We've waited a long time for this to happen. I'm wondering if I should pre-empt any lockdown and arrange to do this on Thursday instead.

Those of you who are in countries where you have to complete a form giving the reason for you leaving your home, what happens if people don't have internet access and a printer? Are they able to somehow be able to get paper forms to handwrite on? My dad here in the UK has no internet access or PC or smartphone or printer. He is over 70 so shouldn't be going out much anyway, but with no internet can't order food online so may have to go out to food shop, so am a bit concerned what would happen if the UK has the same system.

I'm also in lockdown in France. The document is a bit like a form you fill out every time you want to go out .
You can hand write it if you don't have a printer.
You tick a box for your reason to be out.

There's no problem getting food. Our internet delivery arrived this evening. All the supermarkets are open. There's no need to panic buy.

Perhaps it does to you Diana but most French people see it as a way to make sure that everyone is informed and as the workings of democracy. The government passed a law and has a duty to make sure French citizens are aware and informed and when we sign that document we are signaling that we are informed and that we know we are liable to be fined if we break the law.

That may not make sense to British people but for French citizens it does. Nobody minds it or thinks it is sinister or even particularly bureaucratic.

RichardMarxisinnocent cross posted. I'm not sure but I reckon the police would be lenient with a single man obviously buying food. I went out today and saw no police at all.
The idea is to stop groups gathering.

Screenshot of it if you want to see it. It's also on the French government's website if anyone wants to consult it. I have no idea if something similar would be brought in in the UK in the event of a lockdown. I suspect the British would react badly to it but people here just see it as the government asking us to be responsible for our own good and for the good of others and the country.

So, I’m in the US. We have been no schools for over a week, offices shut down so people working from home. Beaches are closed. Playgrounds are closed. Parkland currently isn’t but everyone is using it sparingly and keeping their distance from one another. Restaurants are closed but all are offering takeout curbside pick up or at door delivery. All supermarkets are still delivering but, again, at door. Supermarkets open, all other stores closed. I can still go for a run but keeping distance from anyone else I see.

It’s boring as Hell, but the end goal is worth it.

I live in France. The document is a clear instruction showing what is allowed and what is not - saves any chancer saying I thought it was ok to go meet up with my friends for a coffee or whatever some people think is appropriate to still do because ‘it’s just the flu’. In my area people are abiding by the rules, not panic buying, not moaning. The French are normally rubbish at rules but this is for our own good. I suspect in the UK a sizeable proportion will bend the rules because priorities seem warped over there at the moment. I am shocked people are still going to pubs, hairdressers, out for meals etc..... it’s not hard to stay at home for a while and if it means one extra vulnerable person does not become a death stat then it’s an inconvenience I’m willing to put up with.

Totally agree with you BeesandGees.

Also our teachers have been incredible and so inventive, making online teaching informative and fun.

Our teachers have been brilliant too. I got a phone call from both of my DCs principal teachers (they are in secondary) to check that they had access to the internet and a device such as tablet, pc. The school is lending devices to any families who are not equipped.
My DC did about 5 hours of lessons today with minimal input from me or DH (we were both working). I take my hat off to the schools.

I have a probably stupid question to those in lockdown countries Are you still getting deliveries/post? Thinking more about online food deliveries and Amazon pantry type?

Also interested in a question asked by a PP above; don't think it's been answered - about if a couple who don't live together need to choose one place to stay in? Thinking about my daughter and her BF... they both drive so wouldn't be using public transport (if that's relevant).

I am in lockdown in Spain have been since Saturday evening I live here.
The rules are pretty strict and may differ from the UK.

We are not allowed out just to go for a walk only to walk the dog and only 50m from the house. Only one person is allowed to walk the dog.

We can go to the supermarket which is fully stocked no issues with getting food. But again only one person is allowed in the car. Gloves are provided at the entrance to supermarket and staff are wearing masks. Customers are not wearing masks as yet as they are in short supply.

We can go to the chemist same rules as above.
We can get petrol.

People who are in frontline jobs for example emergency services, hospital staff, staff in supermarkets and delivery drivers are allowed to work. They must travel to work alone.

All other places are closed. There are police stationed at the entrances to our housing estate and stopping every vehicle to ask where you are going.

You are only allowed to visit relatives if they are in need of care or help and again on your own.

I am self employed and ordered to shut up shop Saturday by the guardia, I now have no income for the for foreseeable future. We have been told 15 days so far but rumours are that it will go on longer. Luckily as it stands my husband is able to work from home as long as the business survives so we can afford to pay our rent etc.

Post is still being delivered however the Spanish postal system has never been particularly reliable anyway so I don't know if there is much difference 🤣.

We have had several power cuts today

@whydontkidscomewithauserguide @BridgetJonesDaiquiri I'm due to move house on the 3rd. Maybe able to bring it forward to next weekend at a push but having to get carpets fitted before and wondering if removal companies will still be able to do it. So stressed out by it all.

Is public transport still running in locked down countries ? I don’t drive and have no other means of getting to work

Yes for anyone who is not living together and you wish to see them I would recommend you all bunker down together.

Public transport is not available here to visit friends etc it is for front line staff and running at a minimum.

No people are not allowed to move house it is not seen as essential. Removal companies are not allowed to work and face being fined if they do.
This is in Spain your rules may be different