Look, I know this is stupid but it's a self-isolation question

[yoloPenguinsEatfish]

I can't find any clear advice on this.

DH is immunosuppressed post chemo. DD comes back from French Alps tomorrow. She has had a cough/cold for last 4 weeks. She is convinced she and her team have all had C19, but none of her symptoms are new.

I have to pick her up from airport - 2 hour drive.

So, when we get home does she have to go to her room for 2 weeks? What about me? do I also have to self-isolate?

Our house and garden are huge, it would be entirely possible to sit 2m away from someone indoors, let alone in the garden. (not a stealth brag).

If she self-isolates in the strictest sense, would be fine - except I'd be running up 3 flights of stairs every time she wanted something. If I self-isolate, then a fuck of a lot would fall apart...

Honestly, WWYD?

You have to look after DH first and formost. One minute you are saying you daughter has a cough, has had it for 4 weeks, then she doesnt have any symptoms. Ring 111 or your GP get advice, she needs testing, your DH will presumably be self isolating anyway.

Is there any chance she could get a lift home from anyone else? That’s probably the best solution, then she will not risk infecting you, that’s if she does have the virus.

She must self isolate once she gets home, unless she can stay elsewhere. I think with your DH being at risk, you must put him first. But I agree you have got an impossible situation.

Little microwave and a cheap fridge in her room!

I assume it’s your dh’s home too. Why don’t you ask him what he wants to do. He is the vulnerable person here.

There will be a lot of cheap AirBnB's around. Send your daughter to a local one and deliver Marigolds and bleach so she can deep clean it when she's leaving.

Haven't RTFT apologies, I was absolutely astounded at the idea of sending your DH to a hotel for 2 weeks rather than your DD.

Take your car to the airport; drop it off there and leave the keys somewhere safe. Find alternative transport home.

Your DD then drives to a place where she can self-isolate away from you both.

If it is Heathrow I thought they had a hotel there for such self isolators?

Yes they do

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/10/government-takes-heathrow-hotel-house-quarantined-travellers/

*A hotel near Heathrow Airport has been commandeered by the Government as a self-isolation facility for people arriving from countries worst hit by coronavirus.

The Holiday Inn Heathrow Ariel is being made available for travellers coming to the UK from China, Iran, Italy and South Korea so they can self-isolate for two weeks.

Staying in the hotel is entirely voluntary, but travellers are being advised to board a flight back to their country of origin if they are not prepared to quarantine themselves for the required period.

The three-star Ariel is also being made available to travellers who have been tested for coronavirus and are awaiting their results. The current number of confirmed cases in the UK stands at more than 370 (see map below)....*

Good god, why are people being so fucking rude? Why do people think it's acceptable to be so rude and insulting to someone in a difficult situation with vulnerable family members asking for advice so they do the best course of action?

@yoloPenguinsEatFish we don't all think you're a dick for asking people insulting you (and your DD) for wanting your grown up DD to come home are especially annoying. Presumably your DH has been very sick and (I don't want to assume or be insensitive) might really really want to see his DD under the circumstances? I am in a vulnerable group and understand why you want to see your DC and are asking for advice on the best way to keep them safe.

If you have a large enough house I would bring her home and self isolate each of you separately, with absolutely no physical contact and as per government guidelines for isolating in the home) I can talk to my DCs through my bedroom door at least and it's comforting (for all of us) and gives me positive mental health when my physical health is very bad. I wouldn't send them to a hotel, this could be a really long term thing, months at least. We have to live with it as best we can.

I hope you and your family remain safe and as well as you all can be yolo

Really? she should get a taxi, possibly risk infecting the driver?

You're worrying more about the driver (presumably fit and healthy) than your DH who will be severely immuno compromised after cancer?? What????

Why is your DD flying with a cough thinking she has COVID?

Honestly, this is totally fucking deplorable.

You're worrying more about the driver (presumably fit and healthy) than your DH who will be severely immuno compromised after cancer?? What????

And that driver could have a partner fighting cancer, a mother with lung disease, a child with cystic fibrosis.

Talk about throwing someone else under a bus to save your own.

Good grief, these responses

Yolo - hello - am I right in thinking your DD normally lives with you? Of course she’s got to come back.

And she’s on one of the last flights out isn’t she?

Best your DH isolates as much as he can in the house. Hotels will be full of it. In terms of you not running up and down stairs, think it’s best to say to DD she’s got to manage on cold food so you can leave it in a chiller bag once a day or something.

I’m sorry yolo, I know how hard this is.

I had a taxi driving neighbour tell me he’s refusing to do airport runs anyway so there might be issues there.

I think now is the time to use that big house OP and basically split up - your husband in one part of the house and you and your daughter in another (since you are picking her up from the airport)
I would have said hotel but have listened to the responses.
You and your husband have been fortunate in earning enough/inheriting enough to have a big house and now that may save your husband's life - use the privilege.

Have you seen this? It might help in your situation rather than paying for a Hotel?

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Your DH needs to self isolate within the house and you and DD have the run of certain rooms, with him in others. He is terribly vulnerable and it would be stupid to mix with DD. People on chemo have died. Tell him to isolate completely.

Why on Earth are you putting DD above your DH? Hotels aren't isolation hospitals. He will inevitably have far more contact with people who can pass the virus onto him. If he's prepared to sit in a hotel room with meals delivered outside the door and clean the room himself (that's what isolation is) he can do the same at home.

And that driver could have a partner fighting cancer, a mother with lung disease, a child with cystic fibrosis.

If so, they shouldn't be out risking catching it.

Your husband is highly susceptible so I would prioritise him being put at least risk of infection. He stays at home whatever else you decide.

Restrictions are only likely to become more onerous and for longer periods of time. If your DD can stick to keeping her distance within the home then let her home and yes you should also isolate. (Google Clare Gerada a London GP who has successfully done it.)

Ensure DD knows that even if she thinks she has had COVID19 her low level experience is extremely unlikely to be anything like how it would affect her father.

presumably a ski rep with a cut-short season? Yes, she does have to isolate herself which means sticking to her room and own bathroom if she can. She will have to organise not wanting things too often to save you being on permanent call. You are more mission critical than she is so you take priority.

a major nuisance but she is an infection risk for 14 days.

It is you DH you should be worrying about not your DD.

Please don't send him off to a hotel. Surely your DD is adult enough to understand that her keeping herself away from her dad is the right thing to do. Tell her to find her own way home. If you can isolate her away from you and your DH for required 2 weeks then all is good. If not send her off to a hotel.

I think you should have your daughter make her own way home, then have her strictly isolate herself as soon as she gets back for 14 days. That’s the most practical way to contain any virus that she might be shedding, otherwise if your husband isolates himself but she doesn’t then she or you is going to go round after her through the whole house cleaning everything she touches and everywhere she’s been for 2 weeks. Much easier if she shuts herself away and then the only thing that will need a deep and thorough clean will be the room she’s been in.

Essentially, your priority should be your husband as he’s the one who’s immunocompromised. Your daughter’s going to have to just suck it up and be inconvenienced for a fortnight.

Why isn't your DH self-isolating? If your house is big enough, then that would seem to be the most obvious solution.

Then, pick your DD up - hand wash as soon as you get home and then she self-isolates too.

That doesn't mean that you have to be at her beck and call 24/7 - if your house is big enough, it means that when she or DH or you need to use the kitchen, you use it separately while other family members are in their own room. Make sure you all use different crockery/cutlery - and if you have a dishwasher make sure that everything is washed in that rather than hand washed.

You could kit out DD's room before she comes back with a kettle (buy a cheap one from Amazon) and basic supplies like tea/coffee/biscuits. Do the same for DH's room(s) as well.

Then that frees you up and keeps you safe as well, so you're also effectively self-isolated - but free to care for the animals as you need to.