To think mumsnet is making more fuss of corona than anywhere else on the Internet, or in general society

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Just that! Until I checked mumsnet I realised we had a serious situation on our hands, and that hand washing is essential, and isolating if you have symptoms. And that was that, carried on as normal. But coming on here, and it's people convinced they are going to die because they've got asthma, people refusing to go into work (even though they don't have any symptoms), people planning for the end of the world. I'm sorry, but this just doesn't reflect the rest of the world. I was at my friend's last night, and apart from mentioning her partner needs to be careful because he's got cancer, it wasn't mentioned. Same when I went shopping. On here it's sounds like the world is ending. Aibu??

So you believe following government advice and not going to pubs as an example of "hysteria"? It's idiots like you that will ultimately lead to more draconian measures

So we won't shut pubs but don't expect you to go to them, the governments advice is a contradiction.

I'll support local business who are suffering whilst I can.

You are right op. I feel quite chilled about the whole thing til i come on here. Life hands you lemons, what you do with them is up to you. I don't think it's the fault of individual posters but the magnifying and repetitive effect of the echo chamber makes everything seem catastrophi. Let's take a break

You are meant to wfh so that’s fine.

but this just doesn't reflect the rest of the world. Italy and Spain are in bad situations and that’s up next for us soon given number of beds pp so people are worried. Not receiving care when you need it is not a nice prospect.

@rufflecrow, you've summed it up a lot more succinctly than me.. Its not that I doubt the gravity of the situation as such, its just that on here people are hysterical and name calling, and I'm not seeing that out and about. Apart from the idiots panic buying, people are pulling together a bit. There are videos in Italy of people in quarentine djing and everyone singing along and stuff. Trying to make the best of it I guess. I'm not saying its not serious, I'm saying we don't need to plan to end of society and despair, we need to try to be positive, support eachother and make the best of it. Life may go back to normal at some point, we just don't know. By the sounds of some people on here life as we know it is over for good. I suppose the fact that I didnt have as much to loose in terms of security and finance may make a different to my attitude, but I still have family and friends I'd hate to loose.

a bit of socialising each day is essential

No it isn't. Well, not in person. You can phone people up or chat to them on social media.

By the sounds of some people on here life as we know it is over for good.

No. Nobody said that.

No it isn't. Well, not in person. You can phone people up or chat to them on social media.

For people are isolated it can be they need some interaction.

@lazylinguist there have been posts on here with that theme, one woman was crying because she wouldn't be able to give her baby the life she thought she would have because of the virus (none of them had it, just to stipulate). And some people were agreeing. Someone else was planning their funeral because they have asthma. That sort of thing..

I think it is, it depends on what u class as essential. Someone on here said my shower was essential earlier. To me having a coffee and a chat is more essential than a shower.

I find this half way situation untenable people pretty much doing what they want. I hope they ramp it up soon.

So you're completely ignoring the death rate of 7% in Italy then?

Good to know.

Not once does it say don't visit people with cancer, or don't go to the shops or go for coffee. It says don't do these things if you are showing symptoms!!!

OP you haven’t read the guidance. It’s here: www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/

I hope that helps you understand that this isn’t about whether you personally feel well, it’s about minimising spread to allow hospitals to cope and avoid thousands of unnecessary deaths.

As the NHS advice says: Everyone should do what they can to stop coronavirus spreading.

It’s list of ‘don’t’s’ includes ‘do not have visitors to your home, including friends and family’ and it also advises ‘ avoid social activities, such as going to pubs, restaurants, theatres and cinemas’.

Do you not understand this? It’s not panic, it’s rational advice based on expert medical opinion.

@elspethdlashman, how am I ignoring it? I think 93% survival rate is pretty good. That's alot more than many types of cancer. I am not saying its great, or that I would want to get it. What is the death rate for other strains of flu?

Why would you go for a coffee? Have you read the updated govt advice?

I have spent the day working on emergency strategies for my organisation so we can continue to employ staff while some of out areas of work have completely stopped. I do not think we are overreacting.

Given that op has not even bothered to look up the death rate for other types of flu I cannot be bothered to comment further, other than to say intensive care will be at capacity in the UK in 2-3 weeks.

@cyllie33 it doesn't say avoid people with cancer, or weakened immune symptoms, unless of course you have the virus. People jumped down my throat about going to my friends house because her partner has cancer. I think the advice is extremely contradictory to be honest. In order to travel to school involves bus travel, unavoidable, that means lots of contact. Many of my friends live in shared houses with communal areas, impossible to isolate.

It's a big deal.

The Prime Minister doing a daily press briefing and the Chancellor dishing out an aid package to save entire industries is a clue.

This hasn't even started yet.

Maybe you should pay more attention.

So you say you're on a zero hours contract. Are you concerned at all about when the virus rate means you'll be laid off?
Or you won't be able to go to the bookies? Or the pub? Or the MH services in your area are at their limit because of staff shortages?
You mentioned going to your friend's house (the one with the sick husband) and so you were rounded on for thinking it was ok to visit someone at risk...but then you said you met him in the bookies.
Do they live in the bookies then?

Governments around the world are taking expert advice and imposing draconian conditions on whole populations, but you think we’re over reacting?

Of course, some random person on the internet is bound to know things that the experts don’t.

What is the death rate for other strains of flu?

Firstly, this isn’t a strain of flu. It’s a SARS. They’re very different.
Secondly, for flu it’s around 0.1%. Far far less than this.

People jumped down my throat about going to my friends house because her partner has cancer.

I’m sorry people jumped down your throat but the advice clearly says ‘do not have visitors to your home, including friends and family’ and states this applies to everyone, but especially those with weakened immune systems.

So do you understand that visiting the home of a friend whose partner has cancer is directly going against the expert advice?

It’s for everyone - symptoms or not.

In addition, you could have the virus and not have symptoms, so that’s another reason why there are the guidelines for social distancing. Yes, it’s harder to do for some than others depending on working and living arrangements but that doesn’t mean just wilfully ignoring it. It means adhering as best you can because the sudden spike of infection we are likely to see very soon will put an appalling strain on the health system.

I’m assuming you just haven’t understood this, but don’t accuse others of panicking when they are sensibly trying to follow the proper advice as best they can.

There are videos in Italy of people in quarentine djing and everyone singing along and stuff. Trying to make the best of it I guess.

Yes - it was wonderful to watch - but Italy has been locked down due to the seriousness of the pandemic, because they've had so many deaths, they were doing something distantly and safe. Nobody could transfer the virus because they were too far apart.

You see the difference between that, and someone going to the pub or the bookies right?

Also, you don't know if anyone's infected - they can be contagious before they even show symptoms.

@redtoothbrush, do u think I'm saying its not a big deal? You have missed the point of my post.

@BeetrootBasil do u know it? Id be interested.. I can look it up, but I only want to compare it to the corona virus for part of the discussion, so if you know it please share.

It’s 0.1% OP.

The advice about going to your friends house was quite clear if you’d bothered to look it up. You shouldn’t have gone,

You need to be aware of the difference between the flu and SARS, OP.

This is the thing the world has been dreading - Hollywood films have been made about this - and now it's real. A global pandemic of a SARS, highly contagious, and kills people. 1% is a conservative estimate of the death rate. For many vulnerable groups it is higher.

Europe has locked down. Thousands of people have died already - and it only got to Europe in January. This is not scaremongering or panic - this is what's happening.

Stay home.