This doesn't seem right?

[Dizraeli]

My child woke up this morning with a cough and a crackly chest. He's not got a temperature and seems fine but of course we are now self isolating for 7 days. I live with one of my parents who is a hospital doctor, and my other parent (I could potentially self isolate at their house) works with vulnerable children who have a wealth of health conditions. But the advice is for them to carry on as normal and not self isolate unless they have symptoms. There's no test available for us to confirm if he has it or not. To top it all off, I work in an airport so am not exactly low risk. Is it just me, or does this feel wrong?

Anyone?

But the advice is for them to carry on as normal and not self isolate unless they have symptoms

This is incorrect! The advise for anyone living in a household with someone with suspected Covid but no symptoms them self is to limit contact with other people and only go out if essential.

DS is in isolation with symptoms so I'm working from home all week and my PILs are dropping off supplies.

I've also put arrangements in place with the dog walker for the mornings and DH or I will only be taking him out for his evening walk after 10pm when there is no one around.

@frangipaniblue I literally cannot find where it says that on the 111 website. And I can't call 111 to confirm as they are inundated and it says not to call unless you're seriously unwell. I personally think that as I've had contact with front line airport staff very recently I should be tested but that's not going to happen. The system is incredibly flawed.

You're right @Dizraeli ... the current advice is that they should carry on as normal unless someone in the house is diagnosed with it. That's all well and good, but they're not testing people, so how would they know?!

@shouldistayselfisolated madness!

The advise for anyone living in a household with someone with suspected Covid but no symptoms them self is to limit contact with other people and only go out if essential.

Nope, the current advice only apples to the person with symptoms. Obviously if it's a child or someone who requires 1-1 support, then an additional person needs to remain isolated with them.

At the minute other members of the family / houshold don't need to self isolate, although this may change in the coming days / weeks.

Applies, not apples

I've just searched my internet history and can't find it now!

There definitely is guidance, it's about self-quarantine rather than self-isolate, someone posted the link on another thread on Friday or Saturday, if I find it I'll come back and post it

Obviously if it's a child or someone who requires 1-1 support, then an additional person needs to remain isolated with them.

This could be where I've read it that if it's a child your caring for you need to self quarantine? (Which is slightly different to self isolating).

School also said the same as did my employer when I rang them both this morning?

The person who is self-isolating is also meant to be isolating themselves as much as possible from other members of the household. Not sure how feasible that is though if it is a child that is self-isolating.

@notdavidtennant we only have one bathroom and toilet. I need to go in the kitchen when I'm the only one home as I can't prep food otherwise. I have a good collection to go later at Asda. Can't get hold of them, but I can't just let my £60 of good go uncollected. I know that's the least of people's worries. I'm just confused by the guidance (or lack of).

I think the reason they haven't said contacts with no symptoms must stay home too might be because they think that no one will do that just for a cough (rather than a positive test result), and that maybe then the person with the cough won't stay home either.

I can't think of any other reason - up until last week, contacts of a known coronavirus case had to stay isolated for 14 days to wait and see if they got ill too. If the reason for telling people with coughs to stay home is that they think they might have coronavirus, then it stands to reason their contacts should still be doing the 14 day thing (because it can take 14 days for symptoms to turn up).

Even if that's not the letter of the law right now, because for some reason they've decided to make things simpler for people, it's clearly still the right thing to do to avoid spreading the virus - in case you start to develop symptoms (possibly not even noticing at first) over the next few days.

So it's up to you really - there are plenty of people who will tell you what the guidelines say at the moment, and that that's all you need to do, but you if you can go by the previous guidelines (which will also be the guidelines again in the future by the sound of it), then do, please.

You can still collect your Asda shop for goodness sake. The staff can put it all in your car book without you even having to get out of the car while they're there. Don't touch their hands and advise them to wash their hands after they have finished. Honestly the hysteria!!!!!!

@jomalone it's not hysterical, I am following guidelines. In some countries people aren't even allowed out of their house. I don't particularly want to put my sick 16 month old in the car either if I don't have to as he's not well at all.

But I agree re the Asda shop being a priority to get somehow. Can you phone them and say you need to isolate and could they just wait for you to arrive then leave the shopping on the ground for you to pick up and put in the car?

I've been on hold to them for 30 mins

@Dizraeli it is madness. My husband has gone to work today despite my self isolation... he got there to find his co-workers deriding a colleague who had gone in despite his wife self isolating! My husband kept his mouth shut

People are just really confused

I'm bloody confused. My mum has spoken to her workplace and they've told her she needs advice from 111. The waiting time is 4-5 hours and it says don't phone unless you are deteriorating.

My work asked if I'd been tested, yet they think they're keeping up to date with the relevant advice... if they were, they'd know theres no chance of me getting tested unless I'm hospitalised. Why is there so much information that doesnt seem to be getting to the people who need it??

Yes I agree @ShouldIStaySelfIsolated almost every person I've told that we suspect DS has it have responded with "are you getting him tested?"

Does nobody watch or read the bloody news anymore??? Or you know, research online??

It's quite scary actually how little knowledge/head burying there is going on........

Surely to God the hospital doctor has a better grip of things than this?!

The guidance is shit.

The person with symptoms is supposed to isolate themselves from the rest of teh household - sleep in different room, use kitchen at a different time and clean after use etc etc. Obviously your child can't do that by himself so you need to do it with him and your parent needs to keep away from you both (or isolate with you). It doesn't actually say that anywhere (because, as mentioned, the guidance is shit) but that's the only logical way it could work.

I have been diagnosed as having covid 19 this morning OP after being ill and self isolating for a week already. Nhs111 have said DH is fine to go to work and DD is fine for school as long as they dont have the cough/fever symptoms. So what you've been told is correct

My child's nursery has just sent out emails asking us not to send our kids in if someone at home is self isolating, contrary to the government guidelines. They are already there and I am at home, but cant collect them, due to self isolating nursery dont know I'm off though, and when we dropped them this morning, I was following the guidelines. Now I feel guilty

Our school has asked for children to be kept at home if someone in the house is self isolating.
Mine already are... I couldn’t take them to school due to the self isolating!