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Issue of those on key meters

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HeIenaDove · 15/03/2020 20:18

Gaining a bit of momentum

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charlene wedgner
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All sorted
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@edfenergy
#coronavirus sending me a loaded key as i wont be able to get to shops. Please advise others with prepayment meters.
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charlene wedgner
@charlenebooks83
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Ive messaged @edfenergy in hope of a solution to top electric up as #selfisolating ...
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Thanks Charlene, this is however a case by case basis and is not guaranteed Thanks, Rachael.
nature
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Clearly it is on a case by case basis as despite being registered disabled, housebound and socially isolated EDF have told me they cannot help or send me with preloaded card and key. "How a society treats its most vulnerable is always the measure of its humanity

Sally Thompson
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@BritishGasHelp
i have a token meter for electric,can only get top up in the post office in my area .if government closes all non essential shops due to coronavirus ie the post office ,where do we get our electric from??
British Gas Help
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If you think you’ll run out of emergency credit, contact us to discuss your circumstances and we’ll work with you to find a solution ^Bronwyn

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I rent a place that has electric and gas key meters for 'topping up' / paying for utilities.
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@SP_EnergyPeople

@eonenergyuk

Are measure in place that these meters can be overridden and switch to 'pay as you use' accounts, if people are isolated / ill, and run out?
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Hi! We are still currently assessing the ongoing situation regarding the coronavirus outbreak and all affected customers will be notified when we can confirm what action is to be taken - Gary
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Hi, thanks, Gary. As someone who is classed as disabled and considered more vulnerable in relation to being out and about during this pandemic, are you able to reassure me that these key meters can be overridden should that become necessary? Thanks.
ScottishPower Help
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Until we release an official statement regarding the matter, I would not yet be able to confirm this for you unfortunately - Gary
andrew supple BicycleSpouting whale
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Good question..
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It's a worry for sure. A lot of more vulnerable people will have these meters too, for various reasons, I should imagine. I hope there is a way to get round this. What if shops have to close and there's nowhere to top your 'keys' up locally?
andrew supple BicycleSpouting whale
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Hopefully they are working on it.. I see you've copied British Gas in so no excuse for them not having thought about... Be good if a news outlet picked it up and explored it..
@bbcsoutheast

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Dyrne · 15/03/2020 20:28

Concerning that it appears companies haven’t thought about what to do. Probably going to be high up on the agenda at the Monday morning meetings! Telling customers that they’ll deal with it on a “case by case basis” is ridiculous, and I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before their call centres are overwhelmed and they change tactics sharpish. Hopefully they’re coming up with a strategy to implement widely if we go into a bigger lockdown situation.

HeIenaDove · 15/03/2020 20:39

Agreed And customers wont want to wait until they have nearly run out of emergency credit either

They will be under enough stress

If you want people to self isolate you need to put your money where your mouth is and make it as low stress as possible not review it case by case and wait till the electric has nearly run out.

They have made enough extra money off card/key meter customers over the years. Sorting this PROPERLY is the least they can do.

Many will be customers over 70 too.

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StormyLovesOdd · 15/03/2020 21:00

I'm worried about this too, I've emailed my energy company to ask them what they're plans are but not had a response yet.

My energy company are Nabuh Energy, a small company, I'm not hopeful that they're thinking about this.

HeIenaDove · 16/03/2020 02:35

Unless electric companies find a way round key meters, practicing basic hygiene is going to be hard to achieve for some.
Not great when trying to fight or limit spread of a virus

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HeIenaDove · 16/03/2020 16:58

@Bool

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Graphista · 17/03/2020 18:20

That's horrific those poor people.

Absolutely unacceptable that these companies don't have already set up other methods for topping up, and aren't apparently caring to sort for customers.

I'm with Utilita who are a nightmare in many ways but at least there's 4 ways to top up with them:

Paypoint in shops
By phone (automated menu system but easy to use)
By app
By their website

But it can crash sometimes

pmdw · 17/03/2020 18:39

And British Gas recently switched to Payzone which have far fewer locations than PayPoint.

What a fucking mess.

HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 03:21

HeIenaDove Wed 18-Mar-20 03:19:34
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/energy-watchdog-urged-help-pre-21706429?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Energy watchdog urged to help pre-pay customers hit by coronavirus curbs
The Lib Dems' acting leader Sir Ed Davey, a former Energy Secretary, has written to industry regulator Ofgem amid fears over the impact of Covid-19

The energy watchdog was today urged to help pre-paid gas and electricity customers hit by the coronavirus outbreak.

Some four million families rely on pre-paid electricity, with many cards bought at Paypoints in local shops to power their homes.

But with a widespread crackdown on people's movements to curb the spread of Covid-19, Lib Dem acting leader Sir Ed Davey fears households could suffer.

He has written to industry regulator Ofgem calling for protections for vulnerable consumers.

Sir Ed, a former Energy Secretary, says in his letter: “At a time when thousands of families face the very real prospect of self-isolation - not least individuals who live alone and may not have reliable family or friendship networks - we risk a situation where people who run out of credit are unable to heat their homes, or are forced to go out whilst unwell, jeopardising the health of others

“I am sure that you will agree that such a situation is unacceptable as it puts vulnerable people at risk.”

He questioned what action Ofgem was asking utility giants to take “to support those who are at risk of being cut off due to lack of credit”; “to ensure that gas and electricity supplies are not automatically switched off for those customers who are unable to go in-store to top up”; and “to provide alternative measures to enable people to pay for gas and electricity online, or to suspend payments altogether”.

Sir Ed added: “I am concerned that a large number of people will face real financial hardship, missing work or losing clients as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

“These are difficult times, and we must come together to support those in greatest need

An Ofgem spokeswoman said: “It is critical that customers remain on supply.

“We are working with the government, Citizens Advice and Energy UK, as well as closely engaging industry to discuss their readiness and to ensure consumers are protected.

“We have written to all suppliers to stress the importance of taking early steps to manage risks and support consumers, and have been engaging suppliers at senior levels.

“We expect suppliers to take proactive measures to support pre-payment meter customers, including customers in vulnerable circumstances.

“If a customer is unable to top up their pre-payment meter they should contact their supplier immediately to discuss how they can be kept on supply.

“We understand suppliers are considering a number of measures to support consumers in this situation.

The spokeswoman went on: “Energy is an essential service.

“Consumers who have self-isolated may want to arrange for a trusted person to help them and take their top-up card to the shop if required.

“It may also be helpful for consumers to leave the meter box unlocked if they need someone else to top up the meter.

“Smart meter customers should be able to top-up remotely, such as by phone, mobile application or online.

“Some suppliers are also posting pre-loaded cards to customers who are unable to top-up outside their home.

“Suppliers should continue to identify vulnerable customers and work to ensure their needs are met. This includes taking a proportionate approach to debt recovery and late payments where appropriate.

“Currently, all regulatory requirements remain in place for all licensees.

“We are closely monitoring the situation and we will update industry if circumstances change.

We are aware of a range of proactive measures being taken by industry to manage risks and protect customers

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HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 03:29

Asking a trusted person is not an option for a lot of people.

Also not an option if we go into lockdown.

And they should not be passing the buck like that We are supposed to be "all in this together" so that includes them!

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Dyrne · 18/03/2020 08:07

That’s crazy, completely agree it’s not as simple as getting a “trusted person” (reminds me of the “oh well just get grandparents to pick them up” advice for childcare issues!).

I think they need to take into account as well that as people may be at home more then their useage will go up - I certainly put the heating on yesterday at a time when I’d usually be at work so it would be off. So the “emergency” buffer won’t last as long as it otherwise may have.

Graphista · 18/03/2020 13:08

“Asking a trusted person is not an option for a lot of people.” Yes I’d be stuffed on that score! Not least because the few people I do have in my support network are needing to self isolate now themselves anyway!

And yes Dyrne home usage will be spiking due to self isolation.

Honestly this govts response bring “piss up” and “brewery”
To mind

HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 23:03

www.eonenergy.com/coronavirus-update.html

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Graphista · 18/03/2020 23:07

Well that's fairly pathetic!

Not everyone has someone they can ask to top up their cards/keys!

Why on Earth can't they allow them to be credit customers temporarily or at least put in place the possibility to pay by phone or online by debit/credit card?

HeIenaDove · 18/03/2020 23:10

YY Graphista

"all in this together" my arse!!!!!!!

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Graphista · 18/03/2020 23:20

Well... that's Tory individualist society for you...

Oh that's right no such thing as society

HeIenaDove · 19/03/2020 01:31

Holy shit!!!!!!!! @pmdw @Graphista

www.thecanary.co/opinion/2020/01/25/british-gass-payzone-con-just-left-a-disabled-person-with-no-power/

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Graphista · 19/03/2020 02:02

Miserable buggers!

Surely that's discrimination?

Not only disability but on the basis of sex too as most single parents are mothers.

I'm in some suitable groups on social media I shall try and spread the word. Maybe shame them into treating people decently!

Graphista · 19/03/2020 02:10

Just found this they pretty much couldn't care less.

The people MOST likely to be on prepay are the poor, sick and otherwise vulnerable

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Graphista · 19/03/2020 02:11

Sorry meant to say that as the people most likely to be on prepay are usually poor THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY to do a big advance top up

HeIenaDove · 19/03/2020 03:03

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Saturday's here & we're ready to go! If you
need our help, just let us know! We're here till 6pm, ^ Shah
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I asked last week, what support or help (if any) are you offering to customers on prepayment meters who are in isolation and don't have anyone to top up their key/card???
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Hi there, my colleague replied to you about this on Monday. Customers who are self-isolating will need to contact us directly so we can look to help support on a case by case scenario. Thanks, Jake
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Nope not good enough. Your reply was to get family or friend to top up. I'm asking about people who have NO ONE to help them...
The Female
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In the event of having to self isolate with a older top up meter, it will be your responsibility to make sure either the meter is topped up enough for the duration of the isolation or you can get a friend or family to go out and top you up Cheers, Dave
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That was your DM.
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I've expanded on that little more here. I can't tell you exactly what we'll be able do for each customer I'm afraid tho, as everybody's circumstances are different. I can say that we'll be here to help those customers who don't have a safety net to fall back on.
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Well that answer is as thick as mud. Simple Yes or No, will you be crediting peoples meters who can't top up?
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Not just not able to top up don't have money at home would need a lot for another 3 months. PO only takes cash.
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Its disgusting they're not answering my yes or no question its not fucking rocket science
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You just get standard vulnerable customers are important to us statement been nearly a week a progress report would be something.
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I've been tweeting them for over a fortnight now, i will continue to do so, fuckers
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I contacted my local news they are looking it there's just been no press coverage over this huge issue affecting so many vulnerable people who are told and have to isolate.
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I asked that very question last night.
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Four months here in isolation ahead only enough gas/electric for about a month, at least we could put that on many can't.

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pmdw · 19/03/2020 09:42

It's fucking awful. There needs to be some news coverage to basically shame them into action if they're not going to do it off their own back.

You'd think they'd take the opportunity for some good publicity, and relatively cheaply for such a huge company.

HeIenaDove · 19/03/2020 14:05

YY Selfish greedy fuckers.

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HeIenaDove · 19/03/2020 14:23

Prepayment customers
How can I top up my prepayment meter if I am self-isolating?
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You should tell your supplier straightaway if you can’t top up your meter. This includes if you are ill with coronavirus or following guidance to stay at home and self-isolate, and if you don’t have anyone to help you.

The government has launched an emergency package with energy suppliers to ensure you don’t face any additional hardships in heating or lighting your home during the coronavirus outbreak. Customers with prepayment meters who are self-isolating or unable to leave their home can now speak to their supplier on the options. This may include:

someone being sent to top up your prepayment card or token
having funds added to your meter credit
having a preloaded gas or electricity card sent to you in the post.
No credit meters will be disconnected during the outbreak.

Suppliers must tell you:

what customer service support is available, particularly if you are vulnerable
how you are supported if you can’t top up or could go off supply.
If your meter is outside, it may be helpful for you to leave your meter box unlocked if it's safe to do so, and if you need someone else to top it up. You may also want to arrange for a trusted person to take your top-up card to the shop if needed.

If your local top up shop closes, contact your supplier who can help. Paypoint.com and Payzone.co.uk list alternative vendors online, and the Post Office also provide top ups for some suppliers.

If you are a smart meter customer, you should be able to top-up remotely, such as by phone, mobile application or online.

Citizens Advice has published more detailed online advice for prepayment customers. You can also their helpline on 0808 223 1133. Calls are free. If you feel overwhelmed, or are unable to deal with your supplier on your own because of personal circumstances, the helpline may also be able to refer you to the Citizens Advice Extra Help Unit. Learn more at: ehu.org.uk

www.ofgem.gov.uk/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-covid-19-and-your-energy-supply

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HeIenaDove · 19/03/2020 14:25

Chris
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@DamianCollins
Hi Damian, I have family in isolation in your constituency that have key meters on their gas and electrics that have to be topped up by leaving the house. I don’t live near by and some people won’t have help.
@edfenergy
are refusing to help. What can be done?
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Hi Chris- please email me at [email protected]
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Hello Chris, this is certainly not the case, we're aiming to help all of our customers. DM us and we'll sort this out for you. Thanks, Neil

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HeIenaDove · 19/03/2020 14:30

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In light of the uncertainty with the outbreak of COVID -19 (Coronavirus), we are taking measures to maintain our service, particularly for those in vulnerable circumstances, and a constant supply of energy to our customers and to protect our employees and the safety of our sites.
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House with gardenWheelchair symbolWoman technologistFace with medical mask URGENT Q ..can you tell me how people on KEY METERS can charge the key ..if they're not allowed outside ..can they do it via the phone for now ..what arrangements are you making?
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Hi,if you're unable to top up your meters and no one can top up for you, a one-off payment can be paid to your energy accounts using a debit or credit card. We can then post a key or card with the amounts paid to you or someone can collect them on your behalf. Thanks, Lisa
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House with gardenWheelchair symbolWoman technologistFace with medical mask..please Lisa ..please tell your bosses ...they need to do MUCH MORE than that ..they need to set up a temp telephone payment system ..to help the poor and under-supported ..please!
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Thanks for your comments, to discuss this further please DM us. Thanks, Rachael.
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This will obviously need to be more than just a one off for those who have to self isolate for 12 weeks.
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We appreciate this and it can be done more than once if needed. So it would depend if on each individual needs.

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