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Is this whole thing being exaggerated?

396 replies

agentstarling · 14/03/2020 13:14

Coronavirus seems to only affect mostly older people with already compromised immune systems. So far we have had only 11 deaths some being 80 even a ninety-year-old. The press is whipping people up into a hysteria in my view I have a degree in biology I am not a doctor but I would say that some of this is ridiculous.

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Oakmaiden · 14/03/2020 16:53

Deux why would he? ?He isn't making people pay to watch his videos. Advertising companies are paying him so they can advertise next to his videos. It is just the way it works.

NoMoreDickheads · 14/03/2020 16:54

This is a Question To Which The Answer Is No. #QTWTAIN

The Prime Minister wouldn't say many people are going to lose loved ones before their time unless it was something we need to be worried about.

BretonKitten · 14/03/2020 16:57

No

Angryrant55 · 14/03/2020 16:58

Are you really a biologist.

NoMoreDickheads · 14/03/2020 16:58

@agentstarling The death rate from coronavirus is very high compared to flu or other illnesses- 1 in 100 or more, which is pretty high. Yes it's more of a risk to people who have conditions, but are their lives less valuable?

Even if we personally are at less risk than some, we should still do ^everything* we can to prevent the spread of this virus which is going to kill a fair few people- and not just the elderly, people of any age with a wide range of conditions are at risk.

IDK where your degree is from. Grin

Alice02132354 · 14/03/2020 17:00

@peeledplumtomatoes I understand. I'm sure you'll be ok. Just take all the precautions you can. No one knows what's actually going on out there.

Deux · 14/03/2020 17:00

Oakmaiden, nope you have to seek out monetisation.

NoMoreDickheads · 14/03/2020 17:03

Plus, we are all at risk at the end of the day.

@Angryrant55 There are a lot of 'universities' these days.

NoMoreDickheads · 14/03/2020 17:04

No one knows what's actually going on out there.

@Alice02132354 Well yeah we do, it's a virus with a high death rate, it's not a mystery in any way except it'd be nice if we could find a vaccine.

feellikeanalien · 14/03/2020 17:05

My DF is 90 with health issues. He still lives at home by himself since DM died a couple of months ago and my DSis visits him at least once or twice a day to ensure that he is ok. He also has short term memory loss.

What happens to him if DSis can't visit him? I really want to go and see him as we live 150 miles away but that means travelling to a city which I'm not keen to do at the moment.

One thing which has emerged from all of this is how little the elderly are valued by an apparently large section of society. It would pay people to remember that they will be elderly themselves one day.

trappedsincesundaymorn · 14/03/2020 17:06

The problem (in my very humble and not worth anything opinion), is that we are being constantly bombarded from every news source, telling us the same thing, over and over, until it reaches a point where people a). don't hear it anymore or b). hear nothing but bad. We are being told daily how many have died but NOT how many have survived. The media's "we're all going to die" sensationalism has fanned the flames to such a point that even a lone cough is treated with suspicion. Yes people will unfortunately succumb to this disease and my heart goes out to their families, it is sad, but we need to have some perspective which is what's lacking, both irl and on MN.

BreatheAndFocus · 14/03/2020 17:06

Yes, it’s all being exaggerated. WHO, Italy, China and all the other countries got together and thought it would be a bit of a laugh to wind people up like this 🙄

Or - here’s another idea, it actually is a pandemic and Coronavirus is highly contagious with no vaccine. It’s killing many and could potentially overwhelm health services so people could die of other preventable conditions that are nothing to do with CV.

But I’m sure the WHO would be delighted to have someone with a degree in Biology to put them right. 🙄

Doubletrouble99 · 14/03/2020 17:10

I have a heart condition and a lung condition so in grave danger if I catch this. I have two adopted SEN teens, who's going to look after them? Their BM died, can you imagine how they would cope if I died too!

Inkpaperstars · 14/03/2020 17:13

With high numbers infected, those 'low' percentages will be huge numbers,

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kateandme · 14/03/2020 17:16

tell that to my 30 year old immuno supressed.dont youfucking dare.because its scaring us shitless of her getting it and losing her.
why dont you ask spain at the moment.
or italy.
yeh totally over hyping it

PlopTeeth · 14/03/2020 17:17

No.

scarbados · 14/03/2020 17:17

I'm only old and already chronicly ill so I don't matter to you, OP.

Can I tell you something about this old woman who doesn't matter? She had a childhoo ambition to be a nurse, so at 18 she started her training and over the years became a State Registered Nurse, a State Certified Midwife and a Registered Sick Children's Nurse. Later she studied in her own time and got a degree in Cancer Nursing and Palliative Care. She has delivered over 300 babies, saved lives and held the hands of the dying.

She became disabled by osteoarthritis and instead of giving in, she became a senior admin assistant with Child Protection, doing the paperwork needed to support a team of social workers who were safeguarding children. Since retiring she has worked as a volunteer with the RNLI and has raised a lot of money to help save lives at sea. She also works on children's art and craft workshops, passing on her knowledge and skills to new generations.

But it doesn't matter to you if I die because I'm only an old person.

So fuck you, OP. You can shove your ignorant opinions where the sun don't shine.

Inkpaperstars · 14/03/2020 17:18

OP this virus will grow exponentially, one minute it is ten deaths, blink and it is one thousand. Blink again..

The health service will be overwhelmed and other health care will be stripped back to an extreme.

You would be amazed how many people have underlying conditions.

Under 40/healthy people will die, yes in lower numbers but that will be no comfort to them or their families.

Also..

the lives of the elderly and or those suffering existing health issues are worth as much as yours and possibly more depending on individuals.

Inkpaperstars · 14/03/2020 17:22

Yes where did you get your degree OP?

feellikeanalien · 14/03/2020 17:33

Scarbados Well said.

willdoitinaminute · 14/03/2020 17:41

Just to desensationalise some of the data presented by the press this is the graph of all deaths per year for uk according to age. The rate for 80+ is 10%. It doesn’t mean the Covid deaths will be extra they may just be sooner.

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agentstarling · 14/03/2020 17:41

The life expectancy in this country is 80 if people die of coronavirus they are effecticely still dying of natural causes imo. The person who says their mother in law is 84 and she still hopes to have another ten years. Do you realise how absurd you sound? Most people do not live to 94 . I am not trying to diminish the deaths of older people but it is simply not the massively deadly plague it is being mae out to be. As I said they had a high death rate in Italy because they live longer in Italy because of their healthy diet and have a lot more old people there.

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Youngatheart00 · 14/03/2020 17:43

These are human lives you are talking about. Not just statistics.

agentstarling · 14/03/2020 17:47

At the moment only 10000 have it out of 67 million and people are already isolating. My cousin is having a birthday party tonight my whole family are going even my nearly 80 year old auntie my parents and loads
of other 70 year olds. The chance of any of them having it or contracting it is extremely low.

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AuldAlliance · 14/03/2020 17:49

Thinking it's hype is a natural reaction to a disaster that has not hit yet. It's invisible, the details are horrifying and the natural reaction is to reject it. The same way we do with the idea of our own mortality, until we can't any more.

Many people are unaware of the full extent of what is coming, partly because of the figures about how it affects age groups which initially suggested that younger people would be OK, and those under 65-70 were reassured.

Unfortunately, the WHO and others are busy shouting that a tidal wave is coming and you should go home and get out of its way, they're turning planes around mid-flight and battening down all the hatches, but many people's reaction is, variously, along the lines of,
"I can't see it."
"Tidal waves don't hit everyone and I'm below 65/fit/healthy/standing to the left of where it might strike."
"Most people survive tidal waves."
"You say it's a tidal wave but I'm sure it's just a wave slightly bigger than the big ones we see in winter around here. A few people have drowned, but not that many."
"The WHO? Never heard of them. Anyway, I don't trust anyone in authority any more. And look, X agrees with me that's it hype."
"You don't get tidal waves around here. Not since 1918, anyway."
"That's unthinkable so I won't think about it."
"If I run away from the tidal wave I won't get to work and I need my pay."
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