Is this whole thing being exaggerated?

[agentstarling]

Coronavirus seems to only affect mostly older people with already compromised immune systems. So far we have had only 11 deaths some being 80 even a ninety-year-old. The press is whipping people up into a hysteria in my view I have a degree in biology I am not a doctor but I would say that some of this is ridiculous.

I guess it depends if you think 200,000 people dying 5 yrs prematurely is something we should all suffer to prevent, and see our economy suffer for a decade afterwards, too. I'm struggling with this situation, too tbh, but not sure I can just shrug off that prospect.

@MummyPop00 the reason so many people died of Spanish Flu was because of wartime censorship. It started before the end of the war but nobody realised and just had “a bit of a cold” then dropped dead. This time we are informed so can save lives.

I could die before my time. I have two kids depending on me as their dad cleared off and is not interested. I can stay in and work from home - I am very fortunate - so I am doing. I am not underestimating the threat to us all.

@MummyPop00
Wait until you need to go to hospital with a serious condition and you can't because there are no beds, no doctors and no equipment to spare.

@catspyjamas123

Wartime censorship yes. Purely for morale/propaganda purposes. But that’s not the reason for the deaths.

Things like secondary pneumonia without antibiotics (which we have now) and cytokine storms overwhelming otherwise healthy young adults.

Not the case with this virus.

If this was a modern version of 1918, with the net & media as it is today, it would be off the scale. That’s what I’m saying.

‘Young adults are dropping like flies OH. MY. GOD!!!!’

Bit of perspective people.

Come back in 2 weeks with your perspective, will you?

@MummyPop00 do you think so? Good luck getting a bed at the hospital.

@MummyPop00 you are wrong. I am sick, and it is a sickness like I have never felt before.

My lungs are on fire

@MummyPop00 I have to say I thought the same as you, until i got sick myself.

I guess it is human nature to not to want to see the worst , until it is right on top of us.

I feel so ill, and am scared

angell84 best wishes

The mortality thus far with Covid-19 for those under retirement age is a lot lower as a % than it was with Spanish Flu.

Not being ‘smug’ or trying to win crappy arguments here - just stating a fact.

Yes, it is prudent & sensible to be concerned & follow government guidelines on Covid-19, but we’ve had worse in the past & come through it. So much so, there are more of us now than there ever has been.

PS Angel, get well soon x

@mummypop00 that is the mortality rate now, what will it be in a couple of months?

What was the Spanish flu's mortality rate at the start of it?

"Just pointing out that previous generations (arguably our greatest generations) just got on with things.*

It is easier to just get on with things when you don't have the big picture and don't know what is happening. The fact people carried on in 1918 is not because they were braver aboutt disease but because they were kept in ignorance by a government that had a war to fight and who didn't want to shut things down as they needed to keep producing arms for the war.

I wonder what the mortality rate for Spanish Flu would have been if they had the medical facilities we have now....

I hope you didn't get a first. Dear fucking Jesus.

@angell84 I'm so sorry, I hope you get the medical help you need, you'll need to push hard for it. And I hope you get well soon.

I've been unwell, too, I had a temperature and a really bad cough for 2 weeks, then last weekend I developed breathing difficulties because my throat was blocked by mucus that I couldn't cough up or puke, and on Saturday evening I had no strength left, and lay on the bed breathing very short breaths and feeling like I was running out of oxygen. My DH was speaking to paramedics, he thought I was asleep at that point. I couldn't tell him that I was awake but unable to cough or puke and I felt I had no strength left.

No ambulance came, because they thought I was asleep. I eventually found the strength to start coughing and I got through by continuing to breathe short breaths until decongestants enabled me to puke up the mucus.

I'm 50, with 2 adopted DDs of 10 and 7, who were scared to death, as was my DH and my family. And I wasn't even one of the more serious cases, as I was young enough to find the strength to cough and puke up the mucus that was blocking up my airways, so I didn't need hospital care.

This is scary! I've got Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and PTSD following childhood abuse, and I had pneumonia last year. But I was never feeling like I wasn't able to breathe before or about to lose consciousness.

@Beesisabuzzin who?

@agentstarling Just coming back to this thread as I said let's speak in 4 weeks time. Has your thinking changed in this time?

Oh another thread that aged particularly well then

I remember reading this thread at the time so I'd like to know if opinions have changed given the Hospital death toll will be over 15k this afternoon.

Interesting...

Wonder if some of these people are still feeling so smug. This isn’t something that happens to “other people” - it can happen to any of us and does.